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Thank you for your information. You are right about the inmates being in the census. My gggrandfather was there, but the census doesn't give you any other information about why he was there, who committed him, etc. When I visited the asylum last year, they were less than informed about the earlier inmates. (Thank God they let me out again.) The person I talked to said that they didn't have my ancestor in the card file so he couldn't have been an inmate. I have at least two separate references (including the census) that he was there. As a matter of fact, the person I talked to didn't even realize the asylum was as old as it was. She thought that it hadn't opened until around 1900, when it was there at least as early as 1870. The final word from her, however, is that even if they had records on my ancestor they wouldn't be able to let me see them since I wasn't the executor of his estate (I hope not, he died over 100 years ago!) Pennsylvania Archives personnel told me the same thing - Although they probably have copies of the records, I can't find out what's in them unless I get a court order!