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Andrew Fry b. 1776, wife Lydia, Lancaster Co., PA
Posted by: Kelly Moores (ID *****2206) Date: April 01, 2013 at 15:02:42
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According to Family Tree DNA, Andrew Fry b. 1776 married Lydia and had sons Samuel & Reuben. I'm curious if the information about Samuel is correct.
http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/frey/pats.

According to the Pedigree, kit number 192955 is a descendant of Jacob M Fry b. 1839 who is the son of a Samuel Fry b. 1807 and his wife Catherine Meese.

It shows the other kit, number 192956, to be a descendant of Reuben Fry b. 1824.

Samuel b. 1807 & Reuben b. 1824 are both shown as sons of Andrew Fry b. 1776 & his wife Lydia.

But if you go to the y-Results page, kit number 192955 is in Haplogroup I and kit number 192956 is in Haplogroup J. This means that these two descendants are not related.
http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/frey/results

According to my calculations, you would have to go back about 120 generations to find where these two people share a common ancestor.
http://fryingpan.redheadkelly.net/MRCA-whole-Fry-project.html

If you look at the Lancaster records found online, there is a Samuel who was born in 1809 & married an Eliza.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M4HG-LH6

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=11178459

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=11178441

This Samuel has children with the same names as Reuben b. 1824. It seems that he is more likely the brother of Reuben.

I am not able to find Samuel b. 1807 on any census records. I do find his son Jacob b. 1839 starting on the 1870 census, but no sign of Samuel.

Jacob, his wife, and his mother Catherine Meese are all buried in Millport Mennonite Cemetery along with Reuben, the other Samuel & their families. This makes it confusing.

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gsr&GSiman=1&GScid=1546696&GSfn=&GSln=fry

There is a burial listing for Samuel b. 1809 & his wife Eliza. There is also a burial listing for Catherine Meese Fry, wife of Samuel b. 1807, but no burial listing for Samuel b. 1807.

It does seem that there are two Samuels. One born March 14th, 1807 and one born February 12th, 1809.

The DNA is telling us that the descendant of Samuel b. 1807 is not related to the descendant of Reuben b. 1824.

My conclusion is that Reuben b. 1824 and Samuel b. 1809 are brothers and Samuel b. 1807 is descended from an entirely different Fry line. My question is which Samuel is the son of Andrew Fry who married Lydia.

Any help is appreciated!


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