I am also interested in Frederick (Friedrich) Sutter b. (Seitter)abt. 1817-1859 who married a Susanna Serfass/Zerfass, Serfas 1819-1900 and had several children. Susanna was from Gilbert area and the Sutters were from the Penn Forest Area. One child born 1845 was also a Frederick Sutter my ggrandfather. There was also Franklin, Juliana, Mary Ann, Celinde, Levi, Frederick, Ann Maria, Hannah, William Henry and James. I have information about many of these children including of course, Frederick.