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Kent DeGeer writes:
"Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:15:46 -0800
I have heard of The Rime of the Ancient Mariner but the saga of the ancient
Dutch cadet that sailed on De Bonte Koe in 1660 is particularly hard to
digest.
Is it just me or does anyone else have difficulty trying to comprehend what
in the world would possess a 40 to 48 year old Dutchman to:
1.Abandon his profession as a furrier in Amsterdam?
2.Convince his second wife, 43 year old Tryntje van der Lande, to
start a new life in Nieuw Nederland?
3.Join the Dutch West India Company as an adelborst (i.e., cadet or
midshipman - a temporary rank held by young officers in training)?
4.Pack up a few of his prized possessions and three children?, and
5.Sail off into the sunset for the New World."
Kent--I, too, have difficulty in accepting that
the passengers on De Bonte Koe were the ancestors of the Ostrander Family.
Terence Kelley
The ship's manifest listed a man & three children. The children were not named.
About a century ago, a project began to collect the data on ALL Ostrander descendants {even though some early generations had used a spelling not quite the same as OSTRANDER], and notice was taken of the De Bonte Koe records.
As the record included the name Pieter Pieterzen, it was assumed that this man was the ancestor of the man that married Rebecca Traphagen in 1679 in Kingston.
Repeating this story for 80 years lead veracity to the story.
In 1998 an article appeared in New York Genealogical & Biographical record describing the origins of the PIER & OSTRANDER families. In researching the TRAGHAGEN family, Chris Brooks developed much information which, when analyzed carefully, leads to the conclusion that the parents of the man that married Rebecca Traphagen were NOT passengers on De Bonte Koe.
Chris Brooks states: "My research shows that Pieter Ostrander's parents were probably Pieter Karstensen "van Noortstrand" and Geesje Jans of Amsterdam. Pieter Karstensen died about 1659 and his widow remarried Arent Teunisen Pier and emigrated to New Amsterdam in 1661 on the St Jean Baptiste with two children age 7 and 4. I will be publishing these findings soon in the New York Genealogical and Biographical Record. "
The groom (Pieter) of the 1679 marriage arrived in 1661 on St Jean Baptiste. With his mother (Geesje Jans) and her second husband, Arent Teunisen Pier.
Arent & Geesje had children, who were, or course, half siblings to Pieter.
Some of the children in a few decades took the name OSTRANDER and the others took the name PIER.
Some of the Ostrander descendants married those descendants of the PIER children.
For further information, begin at message # 70 on this forum and read all responses to the original messages of Chris Brooks. Also read message # 554 and navigate to view ALL messages by Lorine.
It appears to me that the Matriarch of ALL the Ostranders was Geesje Jans.
In addition, she was the Matriarch of many of the members of the Pier family.
As many grandchildren & greatgrandchildren & gr gr grandchildren of Geesje married, the family tree is a bit narrower in the 18th century in my pedigree. I descend from Geesje in five distinct lines.
Find this scholarly publication at http://www.geocities.com/~cabrooks/ancestry.htm
Terence Kelley Ostrander Researcher..see next message for text---
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