thanks so much, no i doubt they were born in indiana, family lore has Pa.....and he was known to travel between michigan and ohio a lot for work. ephriam family line is still in michigan......at least now i can figure, my grt grandfather was born in ohio and not in michigan as was thought, as he was born in defiance, ohio, not defiance, michigan in 1861 family ended up in sandusky county and erie coutny.....thanks again for the help.....trying to back track know how that is!!
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