thanks for the reply.
i have johns death certificate, has his fathers name, and mothers first name, no maiden name. hope one day i can find her maiden name. cant remember what Maria's death certificate or obit say, but i dont remember if they have parents names. i do know there is somewhere between her and her siblings obits, the parents names are a little various.
not sure who margaret is, but i know that their children are not named margaret
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