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I imagine both Joseph and John are the sons so named Dirck Lowe Carle (aka Richard L. Carle [Sr.]) and his wife, Mary Firestone.
Richard L. Carle [Sr.] was born at New Jersey, the son of Joseph Carle and his wife, Maria Lowe.
There were nine known children born to Richard and Mary, as below.
Rebecca Firestone Carle, m. John Miller
George F. Carle, m. Elizabeth Sanor
Richard Carle [Jr.]; died unm.
Joseph Franklin Carle; m. Abby Burns
Mary Ann Carle; m. William P. Macklin
Daniel P. Carle; m. Catherine J. Shaw
Lydia Ann Carle; m. Joseph Jackson
Harriet J. Carle; m. Capt. Robert Marion Reid
I'll try to correspond more directly. --GJ
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