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Now that I am a little calmer (but only a little) may I quote some sources but - the amusing thing is that the Oates' pedigree is even firmer than the Brettons'
1 There is ample evidence of the lives and the land holdings of Ailric fitz Ricardus (Ricardus Askenaldus), Ailric's son Swein, and Swein's son Adam fitz Swein. This is in "West Yorkshire - An Archaeological Survey to 1500." Ricardus Askenaldus clearly lived before the Norman Conquest.
Adam had two daughters AMABEL - who married WILLIAM DE NEVILLE (and you must know the Nevilles who were just as famous as the Wentworths.) THIS IS THE START OF THE OATES LINE A tree is contained on pages 46 and 47 of "Monk Bretton Priory" written by J.W.Walker and published in 1926 by the Yorkshire Archaeological Society (Monk Bretton priory was founded by Adam fitz Swein) and showing the trustees of the Abbey at the time of the dissolution of the religious institutions.
You can follow this tree down through the Nevilles to show the marriage of Margaret Neville to Thomas Beaufort, Duke of Exeter and Earl of Dorset, the fourth son of John of Gaunt (who was in turn the son of King Edward III (from "King Edward III" by Michael Packe, edited by LCB Seaman published by Routledge & Kegan Paul) in the case of the Oates family and to "Foster's Pedigrees of the County Families of Yorkshire" Volume 2 - West Yorkshire" for the Brettons -and pick up the link with the Wentworths under
"Pedigree of Wentworth, of Elmsall, Bretton, Everton and Baron Wentworth of Nettlested" There is also information in the pedigrees published by the Harleian Society. Our information on the Oates family takes over from the Jernigan and Wyatt families and leads to people currently living in the USA.
We have no more information than that but there is a clearly defined link to them and presumably to yourself, and you continue the Oates name back to Cornwall.
We have no axe to grind. As I said earlier the Oates family, to my way of thinking, have a more clearly defined pedigree than the Brettons.
To use a North of England expression (not an Anglo Saxon one) "it's no skin off my nose" if you choose to dis-believe it - just
look at the sources I quote
Kind regards
Stan Bretton
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