I figured that's what you meant...at least I was hoping I understood it right, anyhow. I initially made a reply to your first message, only for my internet connection to go down, losing everything I wrote.
Your message got me thinking. The junior Patrick eventually moves to Chicago and there are listings for a Patrick Tierney, born in New York around 1822, parents from Ireland in the 1870 and 1880 Chicago censuses. The 1870 Chicago census is dated 20 July 1870. I need to check the date on the 1870 Oneida, NY census. If the dates between the two locations are far enough apart, would it be possible that Patrick could have accidentally been counted twice? If the census was taken in Oneida first, Patrick could've still been home, leaving shortly afterward and settling in Chicago, only for the Chicago census takers to be making their rounds at that time and taking his information there.
Other than Patrick's timeline between New York and Illinois, it is very likely the same family. The 1860 census has their twins listed as Ella and Eliza. I wonder if Ella is Helen in the 1870 census.
Thank you very much for the suggestion!
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