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James WEBB, Jr. of New York
Posted by: Mark Webb (ID *****3485) Date: September 22, 2002 at 03:40:20
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I am searching for ancestors of James Webb, Jr. of New York. Family history tells me that James Jr. was a son of James Sr., and that James Sr. was a mariner. This is somewhat substantiated by a sketch of William, James Jr.'s son, documented in "Commerative Biographical Record of the Counties of Rock, Green, Grant, Iowa and Lafayette, Wisconsin", pg 812-13. It states "The paternal grandfather of our subject was James Webb, a native of New York, of English descent, who followed a sea-faring life and at death left one son and one daughter."

I located a will in New York City Wills 1771-1776 for a John Case of Southold (on Long Island), Suffolk, New York which was witnessed by "James Webb, mariner." This led me to check census records. In 1790 US Census, I found a James Sr. and James Jr. residing in Southold. This same census shows an Orange, Joseph and Thomas Webb in Southold.

In support of this, I located two references to James Webb on Long Island. The first is from "The New Suffolk Story", by Marjorie Moore Butterworth, available at the Cutchogue Free Library on Main Road. This states that "In the 18th Century, the name was changed to Robins Island Neck. Raising livestock was the primary activity; in about 1759 James Webb was one of the first to build a home near the shore."

The second reference comes from " A Narrative of the Life and Adventures of Venture, A Native of Africa, But Resident Above Sixty Years In the United States of America," Revised and Reprinted With Traditions, By H.M. Selden, Haddam, Conn. 1896, Related by Himself. It is as follows: "About twelve years ago, I hired a whale boat and four black men, and proceeded to Long Island after a load of round clams. Having arrived there, I first purchased of James Webb, son of Orange Webb, six hundred and sixty clams, and afterwards with the help of my men, finished loading my boat. The same evening, however, this Webb stole my boat and went in her to Connecticut river and sold her cargo for his own benefit. I thereupon pursued him, and at length recovered the boat, but for the proceed of her cargo I never could obtain any compensation."

In "A Digest Of The Early Connecticut Probate Records, 1710 to 1715," one finds reference to Orange Webb: "Court Record, Page 180--1st March, 1713-14: Orange Webb, 18 years of age, son of Henry Webb, late of Wethersfield, decd. chose Consider Hopkins of Hartford to be his guardian."

Where I am having problems is tying this all to my James Jr. Webb. James Jr. seems to have disappeared from Southold by the 1800 and 1810 US Census (while James Sr. remains). There are a number of James Webb's that appear on these census listings for New York, variously Chenango, Westchester, Herkimer and Onondaga counties (not an all-inclusive list).

According to family records, James Jr. married Anna Scott abt 1800. This might account for the inability to pinpoint James during this time, since son Isaac was born 1802 in Montgomery County, David 1811 in Cazenovia, Madison County, and William 1819 in Oneida County.

In the 1820 and 1830 US Census, a James Webb is shown in Westmoreland, Oneida County, New York, so one could assume that James and family did settle in this area.

The 1840 US Census does not show a James in Oneida County (he supposedly died abt.1835). However, David and Isaac, along with their families, and Anna Webb (living with Isaac) are listed in the 1850 US Census living in Ohio. This is consistent with family histories.

Enough for now. If anyone can help fill in blanks for me, tying our James Jr. to the Long Island Webb's, it would be much appreciated.

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