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Re: THURSTON, Daniel, b. 1773
Posted by: Bud Schafer (ID *****7055) Date: March 06, 2006 at 09:04:41
In Reply to: Re: THURSTON, Daniel, b. 1773 by Rick Bart of 838

Hi Rick,

Sorry for the delay in answering. Comcast bought our server and I forgot to post my new email address, so I was never notified of your query.

Let me recap:

I was convinced that my Catherine Pease Miner (b. 10 Apr 1826) was the daughter of Daniel & Betsey E. Williams Pease. Their birth years were very close and both resided in Canaan, Columbia Co., NY. However, the data that really solidified my suspicions was finding Catherine’s mother “Betsey Pease” residing with she and her family in 1870.

#3476 Henry V., born 14 October 1825; married Catherine Pease, son of Lodowick Christina Vosburg who married 15 Oct 1829 and settled in Canaan, Columbia Co., New York. He (Lodowick) died at Bennett's Corner, Madison Co., N.Y. 15 September 1859. Source: "Thomas Minor Descendants 1608-1981" by John Augustus Miner, Compiler and Publisher, Trevett, Maine c1981

However, the data you provided (from “Rice”?) indicating she had married someone else convinced me to reevaluate my conclusions. I have since discovered a William and “Betsey” Backus Pease residing near Catherine and Henry in Lenox, Madison Co., NY; William died sometime between the 1840 and 1850 census.

In 1850 a widow “Betsey Pease” is residing with Abraham and Elizabeth Pease Ratmour in Lenox. Elizabeth is the suspect sister to my Catherine and they resided less than four dwellings from the Ratnour homestead in 1870, where at that time, the widow Betsey Pease is then residing with my Henry & Catherine Prase Miner.

I still need a bit more documentation to confirm this is the same Betsey that was residing with Elizabeth and then Catherine, but I feel confident this will get resolved.

However, I have no idea who the parents of William Pease are, so the hunt continues.

1850 census index, Madison Co., twn Lenox, NY; page 166 image #8 of 179
dwg 66 fam 66)
Abraham Rotenour, age 40 laborer NY
Barbary Rotenour, 39 NY
Barna Rotenour, 12 (male) NY (Barney)
Betsey Pease 69 NY

1860 census: cannot find “Betsey Pease”, not residing with Abraham Ratnour nor Henry Miner.

1870 census, Lenox, Madison, NY; 6 July 1870; Ancestry image #67/68 of 218
dwg #577? fam #597
Miner, Henry 45 Farm Laborer $370PP, NY
Miner, Catherine 44 House keeping NY
Pease, Betsy 85 Infirm NY Blind
Minor, Abner 16 Farm Laborer NY
Minor, Ellen 13 NY
Miner, Maryette 9 NY
Miner, Martha 6 NY


I am still trying to find any connection between John W. and Rebecca and the John and Rebecca buried in Oneida Valley. Another very strange coincidence! I have not heard from Pat Brenden (descendant of John & Rebecca of Oneida Valley) in many years, perhaps she is still monitoring this board and can give us an update?

Also, I cannot help but suspect that there must be a connection between John W. and Rebecca and John M. and Jane, if not just because of the proximity of their dwellings in 1850 (see below).

Sorry to add so many more questions to your query. There were no less than eight John Pease families residing in Oneida and Madison Counties during the 1800’s, five of them were present at any given time.

John & Rebecca _____ Pease - born 1786/87 & 1785
John William & Rebecca Mumbrute Pease - born 1793 & 1805
John M. & Jane Luskum Pease - both born in 1817
John & Laura Perry Pease born - 1819/20 & 1823
John L. & Julia E. Osborn Pease – both born 1831/32
John H. Pease & ????? born Jan 1850
John David & Mary Crow Pease – born 1850/51 & 1855/56
John Edward & Minnie Cleveland Pease – born 1872 & 1871

Again, thanks for the heads up on Catherine.

Bud Schafer
Elk Grove, CA (formerly of Sylvan Beach, Oneida Co., NY)
Also researching: Adle, Barche (Barge), Butler, Chrisman, Church, Clock/Klock, Crizer/Kreuser, Everett(s), Fox, Gardner, Guy, Hyland, Ma’ss, Miner, O’Leary, Pease, Richmond, Robins, Schafer, Vosburg, Zimmer, Zabele.

PS: Below are some Pease family abstracts for Madison County 1840 and 1850. I have some for the later years also which I will be posting on my database at Ancestry soon.

PPS: I noted your list of children for John L. posted on Rootsweb. If David L. Pease is correct that John married Aurelia in 1870, then wouldn’t Ruth Ann be the daughter of Julia? Also, Sarah and Emily are missing from the list of children for John W. & Rebecca. I wonder how the heck he found Rebecca’s maiden name (Mumbrute)!

PPPS: I have long suspected that Alva Pease was the brother of John W.; have you any thoughts on this?

Here are all of the Pease families of Madison County, NY listed on the 1840 census:

1840 census, Lenox, Madison Co., NY; Ancestry image #5 of 62
John Pease: 0000100000000-0000100000000
(Neighbors: Abraham Ratnour and N. B. Nye)
(Edgar Pease, son of John & Laura Pease, was born 25 Feb 1839. This cannot be John & Laura. The only other known John Pease born 1815/20 was John M. Pease born 1817, husband of Jane Luskum and suspected son of John and Rebecca Pease.)

1840 census, Lenox, Madison Co., NY; Ancestry image #27 of 62
Philander Pease: 0000100000000-0001000000000
(Neighbors: Norman Donaldson and Solomon Leyfelen (sp?)

1840 census, Lenox, Madison Co., NY; Ancestry image #35 of 62
Rebecca Pease 0001100000000-0000001000000
(Neighbors: ???? West and S. Hungerford)

1840 census, Lenox, Madison Co., NY; Ancestry image #43 of 62
Elizabeth Pease 0100100000000-0110000010000
(Neighbors: John Bellinger and Elizabeth Buyea, also nearby Conrad Adle, Mary Adle)

1840 census, Lenox, Madison Co., NY; Ancestry image #47 of 62
Alexander Pease 0000100000000-0002000000000
(Neighbors: John Snyder and James? Ingles)

1840 census, Eaton, Madison Co., NY; Ancestry image #13 of 38
William Pease: 0012001000000-1020101000000
(Neighbors: David Dan?? and John Winn

1840 census, Georgetown, Madison Co., NY; Ancestry image #5 of 32
William Pease: 0000200000000-000101
(Neignbors: Isaac Chadwick and ????? Spooner)

1850 census, Verona, Oneida Co., NY Ancestry image 53 of 135; 21 Aug 1850
dwg #386 fam #394
Sanford Pease 32 Boatman NY
Ann E. Pease 25 NY
Zebulon P. Pease 3 NY
Adaline A. Pease 9/12 NY

1850 census, Verona, Oneida Co., NY Ancestry image 126 of 135
dwg #915 fam #942
John W. Pease 53 farmer $2400 VT
Rebecca Pease 43 NY
John Pease 18 farmer NY
Margaret Pease 16 NY
Wellington Pease 15 NY
George Pease 13 NY
Sarah Pease 10 NY
Emily Pease 6 NY
Mary Pease 4 NY
Florence Puklume (sp?) 5? NY
(NOTE: The next page continues with the family of Frederick Stokes (b. England) but it is not numbered, which suggests they were in this same HH. However, I suspect the census taker forgot to number his HH and they were not part of the Pease HH. Bud)

1850 census, Verona, Oneida Co., NY Ancestry image 128/129 of 135
dwg #928 fam #955
John M. Pease 32 Sawyer NY
Jane Pease 32 NY
Peter H. Pease 10 NY
J. L. Pease 8 NY (male) (I suspect this is James L. Bud)
E.. A. Pease 6 NY (female)
L. J. Pease 5 NY (female)

John M. cannot be the son of John W. unless he was from a prior marriage. I suspect they are related but am not sure how. Uncle/Nephew? Bud

1850 census, Eckford, Calhoun, MI; Ancestry image #8 of 18
dwg #58, fam #58
Alva Pease 44 Farmer $800 NY
Eliza A. Pease 34 NY
Edgar Pease 9 NY
Sarah E. Pease 8 NY
Sarah Pointer 14 Ind

It appears Alva was already in Michigan in 1850 and suspect bro John arrived shortly afterwards. Bud

1860 census, Eckford, Calhoun, Michigan; Homer P.O.; 15 June 1860; Ancestry image #1 of 26
dwg #241, fam #238
John L. Pease 28 Farmer $100PP NY
Julia E. Pease 28 House Keeper NY
William D. Pease 3 Mich
Anson D. Pease 3 Mich
Mary E. Pease 7/12 Mich

1860 census, Eckford, Calhoun, Michigan; Homer P.O.; 16 June 1860; Ancestry image #3 of 26
dwg #257, fam #254
John W. Pease 66 Farmer $2600/$700 NY
Rebecca Pease 53 Housekeeping NY
Margaret Pease 25, Teacher? NY
Wellington Pease 23 Farmer Laborer NY
George Pease 21 Farmer Laborer NY
Emma Pease 16 Domestic NY
Mary Pease 14 NY

1860 census, Eckford, Calhoun, Michigan; Homer P.O.; 19 June 1860; Ancestry image #11 of 26
dwg #315, fam #310
Alva Pease 53 Farmer $2000/$450 NY
Eliza Pease 45 House keeper NY
Edgar Pease 19 Farmer Laborer NY
Sarah Pease 18 Domestic NY
Albertus Pease 10 Mich

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