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Re: Tambs-Drevdahl Marriage 1881 Some Info.
Posted by: Jan Hansen (ID *****8342) Date: August 27, 2012 at 15:02:53
In Reply to: Re: Tambs-Drevdahl Marriage 1881 Some Info. by Ginger Weeks of 17707

Hi Ginger.
It's been a while since the last post.
I have tried hard to find proof of how Ole Drevdahl lived in the time 1888 to 1900.
I can not find him in the emigration lists.
He did not travel to America together with Inga.
Inga Drevdahl (Tambs) emigrated in 1888.
http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=17&filnamn=EMIOSLO&gardpostnr=74017&merk=74017#ovre
Notice that she travels from Oslo and not from Bergen or Stavanger located closer to Skudeneshavn. . She is listed as unmarried and is one of few in passenger list listed with the expense of shipping. That might indicate that she brought with her a great deal of goods.

I have found that the son Nils Fredrik Severin Drevdahl lived with his aunt and uncle in the old family home on Selvåg, Skudeneshavn while his father worked in Oslo by census information in 1900.
http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=2&filnamn=f01104&gardpostnr=95&personpostnr=449&merk=449#ovre

He is also confirmed in the Skudeneshavn church in 1899 and is listed as the first one.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=3653&idx_id=3653&uid=ny&idx_side=-104

This indicates probably that the boy was smart and / or came from a highly regarded family.
I understand based on your information that the other son Leiv Thorbjørn moved quickly to his mother in America, but I can not find the daughter Harriet Anna Katharina Drevdahl.
She does not seem to be confirmed in Skudesneshavn and I can not find her in the census for 1900.

But you have a very rare and interesting family that you originate from here in Norway.
I'll try to clarify for you some of your other questions but I do not know the answers to all of them.
I also need to divide my answers in several portions.
This chapter is about Skudeneshavn and your ancestors from this area

SKUDENESHAVN
First a brief introduction to Skudeneshavn.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skudeneshavn
more information
http://www.norwaves.com/karmoy-museums-and-other-attractions-karmoy.html


You want to know where I got my information from.
I borrowed four books in my public library that deals with Skudeneshavn.
1 Bygdebok for Karmøy:Skudenes og Skudeneshavn (1982)
(1 local history book for island Karmøy the southern part Skudenes and Skudeneshavn)

2 Utvalg av Skudeneshavns seilskip. Fortegnelse over 168 seilskip som hørte hjemme i Skudenseshavn i årene 1841 til 1900.
(2 Selection of Skudeneshavn schooners. List of over 168 sailing ships that belonged to Skudenseshavn in the years 1841 to 1900.
A booklet published by the Museum of Mælandsgården, Skudeneshavn)

3.Roar Svendsen: Fra husklynge til by. Skudeneshavn 1835-1875.
(3.Roar Svendsen: From a cluster of buildings to a city. Skudeneshavn 1835-1875.
A thesis in history from 1991 published as a book in 1996.)
4 Trygve Sørvaag: Gamle Skudeneshavn - En ny historie om en gammel by.

(4 Trygve Sørvaag: Old Skudeneshavn - A new history of an ancient city.
A book from 1997 with the presentation of daily life in Skudeneshavn.)

I also searched the Internet and found several pages of genealogical information about your family of varying quality, but that may be helpful to get an overview of your family.
I have also reviewed some original documents that are available in the Norwegian digital archive.
http://www.arkivverket.no/eng/content/view/full/629
I have read in the church records, Probat protocols,death records from sheriff and mortgage registry particular for Skudeneshavn district.
I also searched through the available databases of censuses and emigration from the Norwegian archives.

BYGDEBOK INFORMATION
1 Bygdebok for Karmøy:Skudenes og Skudeneshavn (1982)
This book has been digitized and published on a local historical site for the island of Karmøy.
http://www.slektsforumkarmoy.no/english/index.html

Information on Ole Olsen Drevdahl.
Skudeneshavn
http://www.slektsforumkarmoy.no/b-bok/gnr57-Skudeneshavn.pdf
You can find information about Ole on page 286-287.
Some imperfections. Harriet was born in 1881.
Ole was married to his second wife before 1911 because he is registered as married to her in the census of 1910, but I have not figured out where and when they were married.
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01036708031840

SELVÅG
http://www.slektsforumkarmoy.no/b-bok/gnr44.html
Ole was born in Selvåg located in the inner part of the harbor of Skudeneshavn.
As you can see in this document have the family of Ole stayed at this property for several generations.
His mother Anne Kathrine born Drevdahl is born here and her mother Anne Marie Pieters is also born here.
The property was purchased by the family Pieters, who came from Wyk auf (island) Foehr
North Friesland, Schleswig-Holstein, Germany, but which in those days was part of the Kingdom of Denmark-Norway.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C3%B6hr


Hans Olsen, born 1814, died May 11, 1866
son of Ola Torbjørnsen and Lukresia Olsdtr (Snørtland-Ao.11)
married Nov. 23 1849 with Anne Katrine Kristiansdtr Drivdal born 1831, died Feb. 8. 1897
daughter of Reinert Christian Drivdal and Anne Marie Paulsdtr Pieters

Children:
a) Lovise Marie born:January 19 1851
married Daniel Bertoldus Sivertsen Ø-Falnes bnr.2

b)Anne Marthea born:November 25 1852 died January 16 1931 Unmarried.

c) Lydia born: Dec 15. 1854
married John Theodore Thorsen
SKH-601

d) Ole Olsen Drevdahl born: Feb. 6. 1857
married to Inga Benedikte Tambs
see SKH-513

e) Rebekka Kristine born: July 13, 1859 died October 23 1911, Single

f) Anne Keturah born: November 3 1861
married to Martin Gilje
next user/owner of the property

g) Simon Hansen born: November 24 1863
in America 1911

SNØRTELAND
Snørteland is a farm just outside Skudeneshavn. Here Hans Olsen was born in 1814. It looks like the family lived a simple life on a small property. Yet still managed Hans and a couple of his brothers to become among the wealthiest citizens in the city. They married into wealth but must also have been highly skilled and diligent.
http://www.slektsforumkarmoy.no/b-bok/gnr56.html
Search for Ao 11 down in the document
You'll find the parents of Hans Olsen and all siblings listed here.
Ola Torbjørnsen born about 1780, died 1851
son of Torbjørn Larsen and Brita Hansdtr who lived on «Snørteland-Ao 9»
Married 1813 to Lukresia Olsdtr born 1785, died 1852.
It also says that Ola Torbjørnsen his profession was as servant to the priest.

I think this site can give you great help in getting an overview of your ancestors. It provides no information about Flekkefjord part of the ancestors, but I can give information on Drevdal in another chapter.
http://www.hellesland.com/ahnentafel.php?personID=I6322&tree=T1&parentset=0&generations=8

INFORMATION ABOUT HANS OLSEN AND HIS WIFE ANNE KATHRINE OLSEN BORN DREVDAHL/DRIVDAL

4 Trygve Sørvaag: Gamle Skudeneshavn - En ny historie om en gammel by.

Pages 98 to 103 tells about the house that Hans Olsen built in 1845. and says that much of the interior is from that time. The woman who lived in the house in 1997 is named Kirsti Gilje (born 1938) and is granddaughter of Hans Olsen. On the walls hang painting of her great-great grandfather from Germany and photography of many ancient relatives among others Hans Olsen and his wife Anne Kathrine.
The text says Hans Olsen would have felt at home today in the house.
In a corner of the living room is the organ that the shipowner got brought to him by one of the sailing ships from abroad. A piece of furniture is produced by Hans Olsen himself.
Father of Kirsti Gilje, Hans Gilje (1899-1976) was the last of several generations who ran business with herring salting in 2 large buildings belonging to the property.
The text says that closer an authentic past, we can not experience outside of museums. Kirsti Gilje says that her house is not a museum.
She has grown up in this house and here she feels at home.
The pages contain 7 photographs of Kirsti Gilje and the house inside and one outside image.

3.Roar Svendsen: Fra husklynge til by. Skudeneshavn 1835-1875.
This book is a scientific study of the historical development of Skudeneshavn.
It reviews in several places in the text shipowner Hans Olsen and has a picture of he and his wife.
The book has tables of the 15 largest taxpayers in the years 1860,1865,1875

In 1860 Hans is No. 3 in wealth and No. 4 in income (11000/910)
In 1865 Hans is No. 3 in wealth and No. 5 in income (16000/1920)
In 1875 the widow of Hans is No. 3 in wealth and No. 8 in income (20000/1400)
In 1875, the widow Ane Katrine Olsen owns the house with the second highest value. (3500)

His brothers, Torbjørn Olsen and Endre Olsen is also on this top 15 list.

Hans Olsen is mentioned in the chapters on the initiative to provide Skudeneshavn status of a city with its own customs office. A customs office was important for quick clearance of salt herring so that they could export the goods quickly and was not delayed by having to enter another Norwegian port. They are mentioned as buyers of herring and manufacturers of salt herring. They also ran the export of salt herring to Europe. They were early in the development of purchasing of ships and managed the transition to regular shipping when herring exports were difficult because the herring disappeared from the coast for a while. Hans Olsen helped to establish a bank in the city and was involved in the shipping insurance.

2 Utvalg av Skudeneshavns seilskip. Fortegnelse over 168 seilskip som hørte hjemme i Skudenseshavn i årene 1841 til 1900.
(2 Selection of Skudeneshavn schooners. List of over 168 sailing ships that belonged to Skudenseshavn in the years 1841 to 1900.)
Hans Olsen is listed as owner or part owner of eight ships. After his death the widow Anne K Olsen took over business and is mentioned as the owner/part owner of five ships.
The son Ole Olsen Drevdahl is mentioned as the owner of two vessels. The first ship was named "Godø" and he ran this ship with his uncle Thorbjørn Olsen until 1881. In 1885 he is listed as the principal owner of the ship "Hans Olsen" which was built in 1874 and until then run by his mother and three other owners. The ship was sold in 1888. The booklet contains a painted image of the ship. The ship was wrecked in a great storm outside the island Bokn in 1905 and parts of the ship was used as material for a henhouse.
Skip journal of the ship is preserved and we know a lot about where the ship has sailed and what kind of load it transported.
It sailed mostly in Europe especially the North Sea, Baltic Sea and Mediterranean Sea but also took trips across the Atlantic and sailed north to the White Sea. The ship transported coal, grain, salt, dried fish and lumber.

A picture.
http://www.karmoy.kommune.no/no/news/planer/andre-planer/filer/stedsanalyser/Stedsanalyse%20Skudeneshavn.pdf
This pdf document contains a picture of Hans Olsen's property on page 58
(9.2 Estetikk som stedsbilde)
Residential house on the left that is partially hidden is his residence and the large building next to it is the place where they salted herring. The rest of the houses in the picture belongs to neighboring property.




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