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NoakesLondon Canterbury Prerogative court records 1587
Posted by: Barry Wetherington (ID *****7011) Date: August 23, 2004 at 03:49:03
In Reply to: Re: noakes family crest or coat of arms by Martin Noakes of 306

Hello Martin Nokes/ Noakes,
[Noakes/ Nokes London Canterbury Prerogative court records post-1587]
To cut to the chase, the 1st American citizen was Virginia Dare, born to Ananias & Eleanor (White) Dare on Roanoke Island NC (The Lost Colony) 1587. All were 'lost,' of course, BUT Ananias had another pre-existing child, a son John Dare. Here is where you might be interested.
I have a copy of the Canterbury Prerogative court records of post-1587 period (in the antiquarion script) involving applications filed beginning 7 years after the loss of the colony, by 2 men (Nokes & Sackfield) for guardianship of Ananias son, John Dare, half-brother to Virginia Dare.
You indicate you have Noakes/ Nokes ancestry back to:
'I know his ancestry back to 1557, and most of the Noakes population of Surrey, Sussex and Kent connect to them in some way.'
Is there any chance 'our' 2 Nokes are related? Have you information you might email me, because, even if 'our' 2 Noakes are not related, there might be info you have to help us locate 'our' Nokes. Of course, if you wish, I'll mail and/or email attach for you a copy of 'my' Prerogative Court records, although it isn't clear I have the entire set.
You can learn more in our Archives.
Locating the correct Noakes would improve our chances to ID the applying Nokes, and also importantly the fate of John Dare, and possibly locating family of John Dare, and thereby his dna.
BTW, I have the Arms for all the LostColony 'officers,' including Ananias.
Barry (Dare) Wetherington

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There has, as far as I have been able to ascertain, only ever been one grant of arms to a member of the Noakes family. It is recorded on page 1439 of Burkes’ Armorial for 1908, a copy of which I was able to obtain about ten years ago from Kent University Library. It is written down as follows:
“Per pale argent and gules, a fesse invected between two leopards’ faces in chief and a rose in base all counterchanged.”
In English, that translates as:
1/Divide the shield in half vertically and colour it white on the left and red on the right
2)Create a broad horizontal stripe, divide it down the centre and colour it red on the left and white on the right. Now cut 8 semi-circles (circumference outwards) along the top and bottom of the stripe, so that the red end of the stripe has four bumps at one edge and four at the other, and the white end has the same.
3) Now place the stripe half way up the shield, horizontally
4)Create two leopards’ faces and colour one red and one white. Place the red face in the white area at the top-left of the shield, and place the white leopard opposite it
5) Create a rose with five petals and five leaves and a central point of five spikes. Colour the leaves and the central point green. Divide the rest of the rose vertically, colouring the left hand side red and the right hand side white.
6) Place the rose at the bottom of the shield on the dividing line between the two colours.
The motto is “Nil Desperandum” (“Never Despairing” in Latin)
These are the personal arms of Wickham Noakes, JP, granted to him as the High Sheriff of Surrey between 1907 and 1908. He was a Brewer in Croydon. He was born in 1840, and died in 1923. Only he and his direct descendants have a legal right to bear or use these arms. However, I know his ancestry back to 1557, and most of the Noakes population of Surrey, Sussex and Kent connect to them in some way.
If you could let me know about your direct Noakes ancestry, as far as you know it, I can probably tell you how closely you are related to Wickham Noakes. I have tried to e-mail you directly, but your direct address as given here appears to result in an unsuccessful transmission. I am at martin.noakes@talk21.com, where are you?
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The motto is “Nil Desperandum” (“Never Despairing” in Latin)
These are the personal arms of Wickham Noakes, JP, granted to him as the High Sheriff of Surrey between 1907 and 1908. He was a Brewer in Croydon. He was born in 1840, and died in 1923. Only he and his direct descendants have a legal right to bear or use these arms. However, I know his ancestry back to 1557, and most of the Noakes population of Surrey, Sussex and Kent connect to them in some way.
If you could let me know about your direct Noakes ancestry, as far as you know it, I can probably tell you how closely you are related to Wickham Noakes. I have tried to e-mail you directly, but your direct address as given here appears to result in an unsuccessful transmission. I am at martin.noakes@talk21.com, where are you?
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