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Re: Archiblad Nisbet and Elizabeth Hogg
Posted by: Dorothy Nesbitt (ID *****3898) Date: April 05, 2006 at 20:23:22
In Reply to: Archiblad Nisbet and Elizabeth Hogg by Heidi Thacker of 191

I am a researcher with the Nesbitt/Nisbet Society and am pasting in an article I wrote a couple of months ago for the newsletter. It concerns the Greenholme line which includes Archibald and Elizabeth Hogg.

According to Robert Chancellor Nisbet in "Nisbet of that Ilk," the Greenholme line is believed to have begun in the 1390s by Murdock Nisbet, a younger son of Nisbet of Nisbet in the county of Berwick. There is obviously some connection between this illusive character and the Murdock (1480-1558) of the Scots Bible, perhaps a greatgrandson or great nephew. However, to my knowledge, none of the many researchers who have tried to locate this mysterious Murdock have had any luck in documenting him. So, I will set down the data that has been found.

George m Margaret Clerk
Mariota - July 1523 relieves uncle, Murdac, of all things between herself and John Kennedy
William - June 1529 heir of George, burgess of Ayr, received 80 merks from John Kennedy to pay debt
of his mother now spouse of John Kennedy. William gives title to land to mother & John.

1. JAMES gives Greenholme to his son by a sasine dated 1514
2. ROBERT gives land to his son by sasine dated 1519 upon which Murdoc, tutor and governor
(guardian) of James, a minor, asked instruments. (Note: It is possible that this Murdoc is the author of the Scots Bible and was a brother of James, Robert or George above.)
3. *JAMES listed as juror to assize in 1539
        4A. *JOHNNE discharge of 2 Nov 1576
        4B. *JAMES succeeded brother - died before1578
              5A. Margaret
              5B. *ALEXANDER served heir to his sister’s portion of James estate 1538
               6. *ALEXANDER appears repeatedly in documents 1603-1618
               m Margaret Lockhart of Barr who died in 1621.
                     7A. *William named in mother’s testament
                     7B. *Marion named in mother’s testament
7C. *JAMES 1603-21 May 1690; rec’d Crown charter to Ladytoun
m Jean Hamilton 1628 - goes to Ireland1
                      8A. James b 1629 d infancy
                      8B. ARCHIBALD b 1631 - established Carfin line
8C. *Isobel
8D. *JAMES b 1633-1681 m Ellespeth Redpeth
        9A. *ROBERT c 30 May 1657, Duns, Berwick 1736
        m Barbara - surname unknown
        10A. Daughter
        10B. Daughter
        10C. Daughter
        10D. James c 11 Aug 1691, Loudon, Ayr
        10E. William c 27 June 1693, Galston, Ayr
10F. Robert c 13 Oct 1695, Galston, Ayr
10G. Catherin c 16 Jan 1698, Galston, Ayr
        10H. George c 2 Feb 1701, Galston, Ayr
        m Agnes Meckle 12 June 1723 Loudon, Ayr
        11A. James 1725
11B. Barbara 1728
11C. Robert 1730
11D. Eupham 1732
        10I. David c 10 July 1703-29 Mar 1773, Galston
m dtr Rinton 2 Sept 1736 - no issue
        10J. *ARCHIBALD 6 Oct 1689, Loudon, d 25 Sept 1764
                m 6 Aug 1727 Elizabeth Hogg 1710-23 Aug 1756
        11A. Jean c 16 May 1725
                11B. Catherine c 15 Jan 1728
                11C. Barbara c 21 Apr 1729
                11D. Robert c 13 Mar 1730
        11E. Elizabeth c 2 Nov 1731
                11F. Ann b 1 Nov 1732 - 20 Aug 1749
               11G. Mary c 14 Apr 1735
                11H. Julian c 29 Mar 1736 m Robert Farquhar of Gilmillscroft
                      12A James
                      12B Hugh
               12C George
                      12D Sarah m John Reid of Ballochmyle
                      12E Margaret m Robert Crawford of Cumnock
                      12F Barbara m Rev Steel of Lochmaben
11I. *James c 6 July 1737 m Agnes
(Nancy)Taylor (1752-17 Oct 1802) in Belfast, Ireland -
came to America?2
        12A. John 1777 Ireland - 20 Dec 1847
        12B. Samuel 1782 Ireland - 1845
        12C. James 1785 Ireland - 1874
        12D. Katherine m James Cooper
                11J. Archibald c 29 Apr 1740 - d infancy
               11K. *David (MD) b 18 Jan 1742 d 24 Feb 17903
                      m Sophia Williams
12A. Son
                      12B. Son
                      12C. James m Sarah Frew ?4
                      12D. David - erected monument at Galston Church
12E. Sophia - m Richard Nisbet,5
               11L. Archibald c 24 Dec 1745 - m Anne Cochrane
12. Cecilia c 22 May 1775



* indicates line accepted by Lord Lyon in 1957 as per Nisbet Narrations.

1 A very weathered headstone in Raphoe graveyard, Co Donegal, with whole lines missing states "Jean Hamilton wife to James Neesbit…..1624 ……….died 1 Feb 1679…also John & Andrew their sons who died 1645 and JA Neesbit grandson to the said John died 26 Feb 1696." With so much missing at the beginning, it is hard to cipher the family history.

2 Nisbet Narrations states his tombstone indicates he died "age 50" which would make his birthdate 1743; according to the Galston Parish records he was christened in 1737. Is this another case of mistaken identity?

3 submitted lineage to John Campbell, Lyon King of Arms in 1787; then residing in London. It was not registered.

4 Nisbet’s Narrations

5 married son of Walter from the Carfin line which established Nisbet Plantation in Nevis, West Indies.

Galston Church, Ayrshire:

The new church (built 1808) occupies the site of the old, and is surrounded by the ancient burying-ground. In the interior of the church,……on the east wall of the galleries, to the right on entering from the staircase, is a handsome mural monument to the memory of an illustrious native of Galston, Lt. Col. Hutchinson; and to the left is another design of the same school, bearing a long record of the births, marriages, and deaths of the ancient but now extinguished family of Nisbet of Greenholme.

       "Sacred to the memories of Archd. Nisbet of Greenholm, Esq., descended of Nisbet of that Ilk, eminent in King David the First’s reign, 1126, eldest son of Robert and Barbara Nisbet, who left issue six sons and four daughters. Born 6th Oct 1689; married Elizabeth Hogg, 6th August 1727; died 25th Sept. 1764, aged 75 years. Had issue five sons and seven daughters by his wife Elizabeth, daughter of Hogg of Harcarse, who died 23rd Aug 1756, aged 46 years. Also Ann, their daughter, born 1 Nov 1732, died 20 Aug 1749, aged 16 years."

       "Sacred also to the memories of David Nisbet, MD, youngest son of Robert and Barbara Nisbet, born 10 July 1703; married 2 Sept 1736, the eldest daughter of Sir Thomas Rinton, died 29 March 1773, aged 70 years, leaving no issue. Also David, fourth son of Archd. and Elizabeth Nisbet born 18 Janry 1742; married Sophia Williams, 8 May 1773. This monument is erected by their fourth son, David."

References:

Volume 23 (1599 - 1609), REGISTER OF SASINES FOR COUNTY AYR. (These dates refer to the date on which the sasine was recorded - NOT - the date on which the sasine was granted. I have included all of the information given by this book of indexes.)
1603 - 1608.-- Alexander Nisbit of Greinholme
1607.--Margaret Nisbit, daughter of Alexander Nisbit of Greinholme and spouse of Hugh Campbell of Auchruglen

Volume 29 (1617 - 1634) of these Indexes of Ayr sasines:
1619 - 1634.--Alexander Nisbit of Greineholme
1619.--Alexander, son of Alexander Nisbit of Greineholme
1620.--Isobel M'Meth, spouse of Alexander Nisbit of Greineholme
1619 - 1634.--James Nesbit of Greinholme
1623.--James, son of Alexander Nisbit of Greanholme
1619.--Janet Farquhar, spouse of James Nesbit of Greinholme
1626.--Marion Nisbet, daughter of Alexander Nisbet in Greineholme, and spouse of Andrew Mitchell, son of John Mitchell, of Dalgane.
1619.--William, son of Alexander Nisbit of Greinholme.

Volume 31 (1635 - 1660) of these Indexes of Ayr sasines:
1636.--Agnes, daughter of Alexander Nisbit of Greinholme
1637 - 1642.--Alexander Nisbit, of Greinholme
1636.--Isobel, daughter of Alexander Nisbit of Greinholme
1636.--Isobel M'Meth, relict of Alexander Nisbit of Greinholme
1636 - 1657.--James Nisbit of Greinholme
1636 - 1657.--James Nisbit, younger, of Greinholme
1636.--James, son of James Nisbit of Greinholme
1636.--Janet, daughter of James Nisbit of Greinholme, and spouse of George Nisbit, son of Hew Nisbit of Nevoklaw
1646.--Marie Kennedy, spouse of James Nisbit of Greinholme


REGISTER OF THE PRIVY COUNCIL OF SCOTLAND. Volume VI (1599 - 1604), page 250. "Suspension of horning against Alexander Nisbet for not finding letters of lawburrows to David Brown and others under a certain pain."-- Action by Alexander Nisbet of Greneholme against David Broun in Newmylnis, James and David Brounis, his sons, Johne Broun in Greneholm, and Thomas Broun, younger, burgess of Glasgu:-- He is charged by the said persons to find caution for their indemnity in 2000 merks, under pain of horning. Now, the said pain is far above the sum appointed by Act of Parliament, and the complainer, being but a "meane gentleman," cannot find caution under so great a sum. For obedience, however, he has found caution in 1000 merks; and he prays that the letter of horning against him be suspended.--The pursuer appearing, but not the defender, the order is to suspend the said letters.

SAME. Page 681, dated April 9, 1601.--Mr. Nicoll Broun and James Broun, younger, merchants, burgesses of Edinburgh, for David Broun in Newmylnis, James and David Brounis, his sons, Johnne Broun in Greneholme, and Thomas Broun, younger, burgess of Glasgow, not to harm Alexander Nisbet of Greneholme, under the pains contained in the King's letters.


REGISTER OF THE PRIVY COUNCIL OF SCOTLAND. Volume VIII (1607 - 1610), page 691. Dated March 13, 1609.--Hew Campbell of Auchinruglane and Alexander Nesbit of Tilloch, for Alexander Neisbit of Bredlie, and James Nesbit, his son, 200 pounds each, not to reset David Campbell of Skeldoun, or Robert Campbell in Potterstoun, rebels, conform to the charge at the instance of Jeane Crawfurd, Lady Crawfurd, and Johnne McDowell, now her spouse. The band, registered by Laurence Scot, advocate, and written by Mathew Campbell, doctor, is subscribed at the Newmylnes in Lowdoun, 13 March, before Chairlis Hall in Newmylnes, George Campbell, notary, William Campbell, George Smyth, and Thomas Nicoll.

His Majesty's Stationery Office. INDEXES. Volume 3 (1701 - 1720), "General Register of Sasines".--This volume is only an index, and I have included all the information which is given:

James Nisbet of Greenholme; date of recording of the sasine: January 8, 1703.
Juliane Nisbet, relict of Robert Farquhar of Gilmillscroft, and daughter of James Nisbet of Greenholme; date of recording of the sasine: January 8, 1703.
Robert Nisbet of Greenholme; date of recording of the sasine: October 6, 1701.
       


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