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Caswell County Births Database Corruption
Posted by: Richmond Frederick (ID *****5323) Date: November 01, 2007 at 19:46:25
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-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Frederick []
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 10:42 PM
To: ''
Subject: Inaccurate Data [Incident: 071027-000739]

Dear Folks:

I have been fighting this issue for almost two years.

Please be careful when you use the North Carolina Birth Database. It is corrupted.

It shows people obviously born in Caswell County to have been born in Catawba County.

Best regards.


PS I will continue the battle. If you can help, please do so.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Frederick []
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 2:46 PM
To: ' Support'
Subject: Inaccurate Data [Incident: 071027-000739]

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Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 1:33 PM
Subject: Inaccurate Data [Incident: 071027-000739]

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Dear Kimberly:
Thanks for the response, but it is inadequate. You have an entire North Carolina Births database that has captured the wrong county code for thousands of births. has captured the Catawba County code when it should be the Caswell County code. To say that you have only one way to correct a database is not correct. It may be the only way that I could comment on an error, but should (and must) revisit this database. From where did you obtain the data? Go back to your source. There you will see the coding error.
Please forward this message to those directly responsible for the North Carolina Births database. There is a real problem that must be addressed.
Please understand that I am not some casual user of the Caswell County data. I am an archivist, historian, and the webmaster for the Caswell County Historical Association and the Caswell County NC GenWeb. I have an obligation to those who are researching Caswell County to make sure that does something about this massive error. I will not give up until the database is corrected in its entirety; so you might as well involve others now.
Thanks and best regards.
Rick Frederick

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Inaccurate Data

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Response (Kimberly)       11/01/2007 01:32 PM
Dear Rick,

We appreciate your message.

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Customer (Rick Frederick)       10/31/2007 09:41 PM
You are missing the point. The entire database is corrupted. It shows thousands (perhaps tens of thousands) of people as being born in Catawba County, North Carolina, when they actually were born in Caswell County, North Carolina. To suggest that I comment on each record individually is ridiculous. Please send this issue higher up the chain of authority. It is a major problem that is affecting all doing research on Caswell County, North Carolina.
Response (Kimberly)       10/31/2007 12:23 PM
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Customer (Rick Frederick)       10/27/2007 11:36 AM
Dear Folks: For over a year now I have attempted to call you the attention of the serious errors in its North Carolina Birth Index. Thousands of people actually born in Caswell County, North Carolina, are shown as being born in Catawba County, North Carolina. I am the webmaster for the Caswell County Historical Association and the Caswell County NC GenWeb and ask that something be done about this serious problem. I believe the error is in the county code.

Could someone get back to me on this. I can provide examples. Here is one:

North Carolina Birth Index, 1800-2000
about Mary Jane Shelton
Name: Mary Jane Shelton
Date of Birth: 22 Dec 1928
Gender: Female
Race: White
Birth County: Catawba
Parent1 Name: James Maxwell Shelton
Parent2 Name: Margaret Carr Shelton
Roll Number: B_C021_68003
Volume: 7
Page: 964

This person, whom I know personally, was born in Caswell County. She is still alive and well.

Best regards.


Richmond Stanfield Frederick, Jr.
Caswell County Historical Association
Caswell County NC GenWeb

Auto-Response       10/27/2007 11:36 AM
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Question Reference #071027-000739
Category Level 1:        All other questions
Date Created:        10/27/2007 11:36 AM
Last Updated:        11/01/2007 01:32 PM
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