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Re: Moyle/Horne 15th century Kent Uk
Posted by: Bill MOYLE (ID *****4102) Date: December 10, 2005 at 17:13:18
In Reply to: Moyle/Horne 15th century Kent Uk by Geoffrey Horne of 613

I have collected information about the MOYLEs of Kent in the 15th century and later from three different sources:

1. “Eastwell Park Historiette” by Philip G DORMER, published by the author’s Estate and Eastwell Publishing 1999;
2. the pedigree of the Powys family (www.powys.org); and
3. Lake’s Parochial History of Cornwall.

At first study these sources appear to provide some conflicting information. This may in part be a result of the information in each case being fragmentary and as a consequence of different lines of the family using the same given names; Walter and Thomas, in particular recur from century to century.

All three sources however include the Sir Thomas MOYLE who was Chancellor of the Court of Augmentations in the reign of King Henry VIII (1509-47). This Court played its part in the sacking of the monasteries and Sir Thomas took a substantial part in this. In those days of terrible religious persecution, he found the Abbott of Glastonbury (and at least one other) guilty of treason and had them either hanged or burned. The process enriched both the Crown and the Court Chancellor. Sir Thomas later became Speaker of Parliament and appears to have survived despite the accession of “bloody Queen Mary”.

Philip DORMER (the first of the above sources) says that the MOYLE family of Kent originated in Cornwall and the third source said they had acquired the Manor at Bake Cornwall in the reign of Edward lll (1327-77). Lake’s Parochial History of Cornwall suggests they lived there for many generations and that Sir Thomas MOYLE was living in Cornwall when he was Speaker of Parliament in the reign of Henry Vlll (1509-47).

Exactly when the move to Kent was completed is not known but Sir Walter, who is recorded in source 2 above as the grandfather of Sir Thomas, (the Chancellor and Speaker) was buried at Eastwell Park in Kent with his wife, Margaret LUCOMBE. The first source says he was living there in 1549 but it appears this may be in error by a hundred years or so for the Powys family pedigree (the second source) gives this Sir Walter a life span of 1405-70.

Despite this confusion, credit for the purchase of Eastwell Park in Kent is given to Sir Thomas MOYLE who rebuilt the place in the mid-16th century. This was the family seat of Sir Thomas’s descendants who became heirs to the Earldom of Winchilsea. A marble effigy of the first Countess’s husband (Sir Moyle FINCH, grandson of Sir Thomas) who had died before his wife secured the title, was erected in St Mary’s Church in Eastwell Park. When the advancing ruin of that Church was endangering the safety of this memorial effigy, it and other monuments were moved to the Victoria and Albert Museum in London in 1968. On my last visit to London, the display was still in place.

Unfortunately none of the three above sources mentions the marriage of a Katherine or Catherine MOYLE to Henry HORNE. However, if you care to contact me by email I will be happy to send you copies of the material I have collected. Your own information might help to connect some of this information from the other three sources.


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