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Re: Anthony Jansen Van Salee
Posted by: Scott Pearson (ID *****6501) Date: December 20, 2004 at 09:02:23
In Reply to: Re: Anthony Jansen Van Salee by connie neil of 362

I would like to point out that, no matter how many times a person gets tanned or how darkly, if there are no tanning booths, the tan will disappear after spending a typical winter in the New York area.

So the skin color cannot have come from tanning.

And from what I understand about early marital practices among the scandinavians and dutch, apparently it was not uncommon for the suitor to get the bride-to-be pregnant before the marriange, in order to prove that he was fertile (infertile son-in-laws were apparently frowned upon). The practice was supposedly stopped by the 1800s. I got this from a print research article many years ago on marriage and pregnancy in the pre- and post-revolutionary U.S. and where these practices (such as bundling) came from.

I write the above because, if true for Holland at the time, it would not be unusual for Jan Salee to get someone pregnant before marriage. Given that he was a sailor and a pirate, it would seem to me to be even less unusual.

As far as his wife being the daughter of the Sultan, it is possible, if the Sultan had a large family due to a large number of wives (not all followed the dictum of a maximum of 4 wives per husband), he may have been willing to give one of his daughters in marriage to someone who was loyal and a friend and had proved his worth, as apparently Jan did, but it would be extremely unlikely for him to give one of his daughters as a concubine (would make Jan look more powerful than the Sultan, which wouldn't be allowed), as I found in one posted family tree, and if Jan had gotten one of the Sultan's daughters pregnant outside of wedlock, his story most likely would have ended many years sooner by the headman's axe or sword, unless it were an extremely close friend or ally or extremely politically necessary, in which case a marriage would be required.

I am posting this because apparently this Salee character is an ancestor of my wife, something just discovered.

Much thanks for everyone's work and comments here.


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