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PHINNEY line links again... from my family to our Ydna MOODY's of Nova Scotia
Posted by: melissa1 (ID *****1156) Date: June 16, 2009 at 09:32:20
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The PHINNEY's from Barnstable, MA once again show a link between my own MOODY family tree in York Co. and Cumberland Co., Maine with that of my Ydna MOODY cousins in Nova Scotia.
Here's how it goes...
John PHINNEY b. 1638 Plymouth, MA married Mary ROGERS b. 1644 in Duxbury, MA.
They had sons John PHINNEY b. May 1665 in Barnstable, MA who married Sarah LOMBARD whose line leads to Edmund PHINNEY that my tree links to in Maine.

John PHINNEY b. 1638 and wife Mary ROGERS also had a son Benjamin PHINNEY b. 1682 in Barnstable, MA whose line leads down to Zaccheus PHINNEY that links to my Ydna MOODY cousins in Nova Scotia.

Here is another interesting link...John GRAVES PHINNEY b. 1851 in Port Williams, Kings Co., Nova Scotia son of William PHINNEY b. 1823 in Granville, Annapolis Co., NS (son of John GRAVES b. 1802 and Jane WILSON b. 1800 in Granville, NS) and Martha GRAVES b. 1825 poss. U.S., John married Clara Alice HALL of Port Lorne, Annapolis Co., NS.
They had son William Hall PHINNEY who had a daughter Alice who married Alfred H. MOODY (of NH and the Acherson MOODY line of Clement and Mary "Polly" Cooley MOODY...a line which I am not entirely certain links back to the Clement Moody of Exeter, NH).
Many of the names used in this particular branch of Moody's do not seem to be the typical names used among the Clement of Exeter line, plus they have links to other surnamed families that also do not typically link to the Clement line of Exeter.
Without very well documented Proof of lineage, I fear the only way to positively tell of his link back to the Clement of Exeter, NH will only be via Ydna test results.

This family branch also had ties from a town place in Nova Scotia called "Clementsport" which ~MIGHT~ be a reason for the name of this particular branch of MOODY's too.
Its Just Speculation on my part, but you just never know.

Our Ydna Moody's from Northern Ireland kept using the name of "Newton" in their family tree and it turns out that they had ties to a Newton-Limavady and Newton-Stewart in Nor. Ireland. I have also recently found that its entirely Possible that our MOODY's (Moodie's/Mudie's) have ties back to a place in Scotland that I believe adjoins Ayrshire, called Newton/Newtown - Stewart there as well. Its a little bit southwest of Maybole, Ayrshire, Scotland heading more inland. Who knows? Its anyone guess right now since we can't seem to locate just where our branch of the Moody's actually did come from, but of whom I am still convinced until proven otherwise via dna results, came from Scotland too.

Anyway, this William PHINNEY of Granville, Nova Scotia who married Martha GRAVES leads back to our Ydna intermarried Thomas MOODY and his wife Elinor/Eleanor/Ellen PHINNEY's family tree. So perhaps their Thomas MOODY wasn't a descendant of a James MOODY at all, but believed to have been.
I've been researching into that one too. It might be that their Thomas MOODY was a descendant of that Thomas MOODY b.c1771 in Selma, NC who married Ann RHYLEY/Riley in 1802 Shelburne, Nova Scotia and their earliest Thomas MOODY was named for him. It was found that a Lawrence RILEY married Persis MOODY who had two children with Lawrence and Persis was a daughter of James MOODY b.c1755 and Sarah BAKER of Annapolis Co., NS, but there MIGHT be a link there too as there was a James MOODY b.c1755 (exact same time frame) who lived in Duplin Co., NC. Duplin and Johnston Co.'s are Very Near each other...if you look on a map...in Descending South order they appear as follows and are Adjoining each other...Duplin to the North, Wayne in the middle and Johnston Co. to the south.
This is just my latest thinking, Nothing has been proven or set in stone on that one, but that James MOODY b.c1755 either died or perhaps removed to Nova Scotia himself and could have Remarried to this Sarah BAKER up in NS after he arrived.
He might still be the father of the Thomas MOODY of Johnston Co., NC too and our Ydna Thomas Moody could be a son of this Thomas and Ann Rhyley/Riley MOODY's of Shelburne, Nova Scotia.

Some have speculated that Thomas of Selma, NC was a son of William and Mary (McDONALD) MOODY, but again, I've seen No proof of that and no documentation to support it, so it remains heresay until otherwise proven.
That William MOODY and wife and servants was a Mariner as were several of our Ydna early Moody's in Nova Scotia as were several of my own Moody family. William supposedly came to NS from New York but that doesn't mean he was necessarily "living in NY", he may have just caught a ship sailing out of NY. He might be the William MOODY also of the Johnston Co. or Duplin Co., NC area that I found living amongst the early James and Thomas of those areas.

Whether these 3 men in and of the same areas of Nova Scotia are or were related I can't say for now, but anything seems to be possible.
Thomas MOODY and Ann RHYLEY's son was that Patrick MOODY that married Janet MARTIN that I found living in Newburyport, MA who I already showed was NOT related to the Caleb Moody line of Newbury as was suggested. This Patrick MOODY and family later removed to Gloucester, MA and their sons were Thomas, James, Simon/Simeon and William (ironically the very same names of those Early NC Moody's I just mentioned, sans Simon).

Also in a Cambridge, MA census I found where Charles MOODY (one of our Ydna Moody's of Nova Scotia) and his family and his Mother Elinor (nee PHINNEY) were living for a while too.

There seems to be a Possible common thread between these MOODY's and PHINNEY's over and over again which also tie into my MOODY-Newcomb families in Maine several times over as well and its just been my experience from years of genealogical research, that these families stayed within their own boundaries and traditions. And again I mention that I am still not convinced that the Robert MOODY who married Margaret McNUTT also living in Kings Co., Nova Scotia, are not part of our family tree somehow too.

Back in Nor. Ireland they certainly have a lot in common with out Moody's there (Limavady area for one thing etc.) and for them to move to the same places in Nova Scotia that other Scot-Irish Moody's were already living just seems to follow suit with those traditions.

Since there are about 100 years between the Generations on these lines though, if one didn't know their earliest ancestors it would seem from the outside that there was no relationship between the two Moody families in Nova Scotia, but going back over their earliest known ancestors which goes back to an Alexander MOODY and wife Priscilla DICK or Nor. Ireland and the fact that the name "Alexander" was used often in our early Moody line from Nor. Ireland as well, I feel there Might be more to this than we realize yet. Not to mention the use of the names Robert, Israel, John, Thomas, and James MOODY among all of these lines.

This is enough to chew on for now, I know its confusing but the links are there. I have posted about some of these folks on here before.













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