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Re: Census work?
Posted by: Marsha (ID *****2430) Date: October 03, 2007 at 13:40:04
In Reply to: Looking for a connection - Wiseman line. by Martin Wiseman of 501

Have you been able to locate William Martin and Thomas Eugene on the census records???? Census records are so important for these 'hard to verify' families and can yield many clues.

I tracked them back to the 1860 ILL, Marion Co census and based on the 1900 MO, Miller Co, Glaze twp census looks like there is a good connection there.

William Martin Wiseman used
Martin Wiseman & Polly on the 1860,1870 census.
W. M. & Mary S. Wiseman on the 1880 census...
1900 census his wife Mary S. (Polly) Wiseman is listed as widowed.
You can tell by the children names/ages, its the same family group. In their household is son, Thomas E. 10 on 1870 and Thomas E. 19 on 1880.

And on the 1900 MO, Miller Co, Glaze twp census
Thomas Wiseman & Nancy with children
living next door is
Mary S. Wiseman bn Mar 1837 ILL, widow, 5kids/5 alive
and grandson James M. Wiseman bn Oct 1881 MO, father ILL/mother MO.
With this info the grandson (father bn in ILL) is a good connection to Thomas Wiseman living next door.

1910 MO, Camden Co
Tom, Nancy Wiseman & kids
brother William P is also living there in Camden Co

1920 MO, Pulaski Co, Roubidoux
Tom & Nancy Wiseman & kids

1930 MO, Texas Co, Roubidoux
Thomas & Nancy Wiseman


Although it is a good assumption that Mary S. is for Mary Susan...........it was also common for woman to retain their maiden name as middle name. Soooooooo, it might have been Mary S. for Mary Scrutchfield Wiseman.

Based on the 1850 & 1860 ILL, Marion Co census AND the naming pattern of Wiseman children; there is a good chance that Mary is listed as Nancy 14 on the 1850 census daughter of John S. Scrutchfield....indexed as Scutchfield. And granddaughter of Terry (male) & Polly Scrutchield. If this is your Mary (Polly)......she had a sister, Susan bn 1834, maybe she named her daughter after her sister?????

William Martin & Polly S. (Mary S.) Wiseman name a son John Terry Wiseman. Terry was not a very common name back in 1854. Also William Porter...was a shared Wiseman name.

This is a good place to start......BUT YOU WILL HAVE TO VERIFY IT by ordering death records for Mary (Polly) S. Wiseman......or any of her children; which should give her maiden name. Marriage/Death/WILLS/OBITS/ are your best starting points.

Hope something here is of help. Looks like you are on the right track. If you need any of the census records above, just let me know.

Good luck
Marsha


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