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Thomas and Catherine Long Joyce via Rochester, Monroe Co., NY (1850) and Kilkenn
Posted by: John Joyce (ID *****3435) Date: September 22, 2012 at 12:34:18
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Greetings,

At the recommendation of Genealogy.com, I am reposting the following message in this forum. This family moved from Rochester, Monroe Co., NY to Calhoun Co., MI around 1851. In some census records they are listed as living in Albion, but I believe they lived other places within Calhoun Co. as well. It appears that Elizabeth Jane (?) Joyce married Edward Quinlan in Marshall, Calhoun Co., MI on 9 January 1865. I would love to hear from anyone who might have encountered any of these names in their own research.

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As the various Ancestry sites don't cross post, I am posting the following message here as well, in the hope that I might have better luck in this Genealogy Forum.

I have been unsuccessfully trying to track the movement of the Thomas Joyce and Catherine Long Joyce family from Rochester, Monroe county, New York, where they showed up in the 1850 US census back to Ireland and their origin there. I am posting the following information on the off chance that someone else out there might have come across relevant information previously and would be able to point me to it.

According to the 1850 census they lived in ward 7 of Rochester with their 6 children (all of whom were listed as being born in New York): Patrick J. (b.~1841), Elizabeth E. (b.~1843), William (b.1844), Thomas Keith (b.1846), Catherine G. (b.1848), and John B. (b.1850). Thomas Joyce was born about 1807 and Catherine Long was born about 1813. While the most common spelling of the surname is Joyce, I have also seen it spelled as Joice and Joyes. There are probably other variants as well.

By the 1860 census they were shown in Marshall, Calhoun Co., Michigan with another son, Edward L., who was shown as having been born in Michigan in 1852.

Since my original posting, I have located several Rochester directories listing a Hugh Joyce and a Miss Mary Joyce as well, though I have no idea if there is an immediate relation or not. Directory listings go back to at least 1845, with one listing a Thomas Joyce as a Grocer at '8 South St. Paul Street' with a business at '122 Main' under the name of 'Joyce & Brush, Grocers' and another listing a Thomas Joyce at '6 Pearl Street' with the occupation of Mason. Based on family stories, these are both occupations that he followed at different times.

In discussing records with some of the Rochester parishes, there were, and still are, a number of Longs in Rochester. At least some of these I've traced to other areas, so they appear to be unrelated, but there is still a chance that some of them immigrated together.

At this point, I have no information regarding either when they arrived in Rochester or when/where they arrived in the US and their travels in-between. While the information I have suggests that they emigrated from Kilkenny, Ireland, I don't know if they lived there or just departed from there. For that matter, I have no definite information as to whether they were already married when they left Ireland or if they met and married after their arrival in the States, though I suspect the former. They were most likely Catholic, but I have no clue which parish they might have been in, assuming that they were from County Kilkenny, as opposed to the town of Kilkenny. As the majority of Joyce's in Ireland are from the area around County Galway,
there is the possibility that they just passed through Kilkenny or that the previous generation had migrated to there.

If any of the information in this posting resonates with any information that you've encountered, whether in the United States or Ireland, I'd love to hear from you.

Thanks,

John


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