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Mathurin one of several Meuniers that Pioneered Quebec
Posted by: Janet Manseau (ID *****2030) Date: July 15, 2011 at 14:23:27
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Mathurin Meunier/Monier/LeMousnier was one of several Meuniers that pioneered Quebec in the 1600s.

Descendants of Rene Meunier/Monier/LeMousnier
Compiled by Janet Manseau Donaldson
Use as a guide

Generation No. 1

       1. Rene1 Meunier/Monier/LeMousnier was born about 1595 in Le Mans, Maine, France. He married Marie Leroux Bef. 22 Apr 1619 in Le Mans, Maine, France. She was born about 1595 in Le Mans, Maine, France.
       
Child of Rene Meunier/Monier/LeMousnier and Marie Leroux is:
+       2       i.       Mathurin2 Meunier/Monier/LeMousnier, born 22 Apr 1619 in St. Lambert de Clermont-Créans, La Fleche, Le Mans, Maine, France; died Bet. 08 Oct 1676 - 1681 in Château Richer, Montmorency, QC.


Generation No. 2

       2. Mathurin2 Meunier/Monier/LeMousnier (Rene1) was born 22 Apr 1619 in St. Lambert de Clermont-Créans, La Fleche, Le Mans, Maine, France, and died Bet. 08 Oct 1676 - 1681 in Château Richer, Montmorency, QC. He married Francoise Fafard 03 Nov 1647 in Montréal, QC, daughter of Jean Fafard and Elisabeth Tibou. She was born about 1624 in Hotot en Auge, Eveche Lisieux, Normandie, France, and died 13 Jan 1702 in Ste. Anne de Beaupré, Montmorency, QC.

Notes for Mathurin Meunier/Monier/LeMousnier:
He was a peat worker, born about 1619 in Clermont-Créans (near La Flèche, diocese of Le Mans), Maine, France, the son of René Meunier and Marie Leroux.
He signed up in La Rochelle on 20 April 1644 to sailed to New France.
He married Francoise Fafard on 3 Nov 1647. This was the first marriage to be celebrated in Montréal.
In the 1666 Beaupre Canadian census his name was listed as Jean Mounier. He was listed as being 47and Francoise was 45. In the 1667 Beaupre census Mathurin has 15 arpent in land value and his name is spelled Musnier. He was now 45 years old and so was his wife.
Mathurin Meunier died at Château-Richer some time between 08 October 1676 and the 1681 census.
Their son Jean and his wife Marguerite Housseau settled at Saint-Laurent, Île d'Orléans and had four children. Son Jean was baptized 15 March 1672 at Sainte Famille, followed by Anne (30 August 1674), Paul (23 February 1676) and Charles (24 February 1678). She was one of the King's Daughters Marguerite Housseau was born about 1649 in the parish of Saint-Jean in Troyes, Champagne, the daughter of Nicolas Housseau and Marguerite Bolduc. After her father's death, she left for Canada in 1670 at about age 21, taking with her goods worth an estimated 300 livres for her dowry. A value of $4,275 in the USA in the year 2000.
On 05 October 1670, Marguerite married Jean Meunier at Sainte--Anne-de-Beaupré and was given the King's Gift of 50 livres. Neither spouse could sign the marriage contract drawn up 31 August by notary Becquet. According to Peter J. Gagné in his book about the King's Daughters, the entire family of Jean Meunier returned to France about 1678. New research by Stephen White claims that the family moved to Acadia where 3 more children were born.



Notes for Francoise Fafard:
"Filles à Marier", page 133, Francoise Fafard was born about 1622 in the parish of Saint-Jean-Baptiste et Saint-Patrice in Argences. (near Caen, diocese of Bayeux), Normandie, the daughter of Jean Fafard and Elisabeth Tibou. Françoise arrived in New France in 1647, probably brought over by Maisonneuve on his return from France.
On 03 November 1647, Françoise married Mathurin Meunier in Montréal. This was the first marriage celebrated at Montréal (Ville-Marie). Though no marriage contract has been found for this couple, it is known that Françoise could not sign her name, but her husband could.
Françoise Fafard died 13 Jan 1702 at Sainte-Anne-de-Beaupré, where she was buried the next day.
       
Children of Mathurin Meunier/Monier/LeMousnier and Francoise Fafard are:
       3       i.       Barbe3 Meunier/Monier, born 24 Nov 1648 in Montréal, QC; died 03 Dec 1648 in Montréal, QC.
       4       ii.       Charles Meunier/Monier, born 03 Dec 1649 in Montréal, QC; died 21 Dec 1649 in Montréal, QC.
       5       iii.       Mathurin Meunier/Monier, born 03 Dec 1649 in Montréal, QC; died 27 Feb 1650 in Montréal, QC.
       6       iv.       Jean Meunier/Monier, born 08 Jan 1651 in Trois Rivières, St. Maurice, QC. He married Marguerite Housseau/Ozou, King's Daughter 05 Oct 1670 in Ste. Anne de Beaupré, Montmorency, QC; born about 1649 in St. Jean de Troyes, Champagne, France.

Notes for Jean Meunier/Monier:
Jean was baptized 08 January 1651 at Trois Rivières, the son of Mathurin Meunier and Françoise Fafard, who were married 03 November 1647 at Montréal. Jean and Marguerite settled at Saint-Laurent, Île d'Orléans and had four children. Son Jean was baptized 15 March 1672 at Sainte Famille, followed by Anne (30 August 1674), Paul (23 February 1676) and Charles (24 February 1678). According to Peter J. Gagné in his book about the King's Daughters, the entire family of Jean Meunier returned to France about 1678. New research by Stephen White's Dictionary claims the family moved to Acadia where 3 more children were born.



Notes for Marguerite Housseau/Ozou, King's Daughter:
"King's Daughters", page 303, Marguerite Housseau was born about 1649 in the parish of Saint-Jean in Troyes, Champagne, the daughter of Nicolas Housseau and Marguerite Bolduc. After her father's death, she left for Canada in 1670 at about age 21, taking with her goods worth an estimated 300 livres for her dowry. A value of $4,275 in the USA in the year 2000.
On 05 October 1670, Marguerite married Jean Meunier at Sainte--Anne-de-Beaupré and was given the King's Gift of 50 livres. Neither spouse could sign the marriage contract drawn up 31 August by notary Becquet.

       7       v.       Francoise Meunier/Monier, born 13 Sep 1653 in Québec City, QC; died 18 Jan 1703 in St. Laurent de l'Île d'Orléans, QC. She married (1) Charles Pouliot, (Jean & Jeanne Josse) 05 Jun 1667 in Unknown, QC; born 09 Apr 1628 in St. Cosme de Vair, Varaise, Sarthe, France; died 06 Aug 1699 in St. Laurent de l'Île d'Orléans, QC. She married (2) Jean-Paul Maheu, Seigneur de Riviere Maheu 30 May 1700 in St. Laurent de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; born about 1649 in QC; died 25 Dec 1708 in St. François de l'Île d'Orléans, QC.

Notes for Jean-Paul Maheu, Seigneur de Riviere Maheu:
His first wife was one of the King's Daughters (Page 532) Marguerite Tesson. Tesson, Marguerite
Marguerite Tesson was born about 1651 in the parish of Saint-Paul in Paris, the daughter of Noel Tesson and Christine Debers. She came to Canada in 1669, at about age 18.
On 13 November 1669, Marguerite married Jean-Paul Maheu in Québec City. A judgment by the Sovereign Council on 22 December 1698 mentions a marriage contract drawn up by notary Rageot 04 November 1661, though another judgment by the Council on 25 May 1700 corrects the contract date to 04 November 1669. Silvio Dumas notes "A marriage contract passed by the spouses has been lost."
Jean-Paul was seigneur of the fief of the Rivière Maheu. He was born about 1649, the son of René Maheu and Marguerite Corriveau. Marguerite and Jean-Paul baptized son Jean 14 September 1670 at Québec City. On 22 April 1678, a separation of property was declared by the Sovereign Council. The couple then moved to Montréal, where Marie-Louise was baptized 23 July 1680. Sadly, son Jean died some time before the 1681 census.
The conduct of this couple, especially Jean-Paul, attracted the attention of Montréal"s Father Jean Frémont, who complained of their scandalous life in December 1680. It seems that one winter's night in 1679, Jean-Paul Maheu invited two men from Lachenaie to his home, Mathieu Hubout dit Deslongchamps and a man named Paris. His plan was to have them sleep with his wife in order to make money to support his drinking habit. However, Marguerite did not want to grant her charms to these two. She did, however, devise a scheme whereby she invited Nicolas d'Ailleboust, Sieur de Manthet and Claude Tardif to come sleep with her, on the pretext that she was afraid because she was alone. Husband and wife even carried out their depraved doings right under the nose of the authorities: Jean-Paul Maheu promised two or three of Governor Frontenac's guards (including Lieutenant Paul d'Ailleboust, Sieur de Périgny) that they could sleep with his wife.
It came out in testimony that Marguerite was the longtime lover of merchant Jean-Jacques Patron. It seems that Patron had the habit of giving his mistress gifts, including a pig that he killed and roasted in front of the Maheu household. According to one witness at the proceedings, Jean-Paul Maheu did not work and was often at home. Seeking to get Maheu out of the way, Patron had him outfitted for a fur trading expedition and sent him off with 100 écus in trade goods. This went on for at least two years, with Maheu never bringing back any returns from his "expeditions."
Surgeon Jean Martinet dit Fonbianche testified that Maheu was a lazy vagabond without apparent trade. Wondering how Maheu could thus afford to dress himself as he did, Martinet suspected that it was Patron who supplied Maheu with what he needed, in return for Maheu's silence and the "evil commerce" he carried on with Marguerite. Nonetheless, Martinet stated that Marguerite "had many merits and she was a saint who deserved a better husband," citing Maheu's excessive drinking as the reason behind the whole scandal. Martinet claimed that Maheu told him that since Patron was sleeping with his wife, he should at least get something out of it. Maheu also seems to have threatened on occasion that if Patron did not give him money for alcohol, he would bash his head in. It seems that Maheu even singled out Patron as a target for his wife's charms, since the rich merchant could support his drinking habit and furnish the couple with food and money.
A parade of witnesses testified to the dubious comings and goings of the lovers in each other's houses. Jean Aubuchon testified that on one occasion a drunken Maheu told him that the child his wife had was not his own and that any number of men could be the real father. The Montréal tribunal arrested both Marguerite and Jean-Paul and put them in prison for interrogation. On 25 December 1680, the sentence was handed down: found guilty of leading a licentious and scandalous life, both Marguerite and Jean-Paul would have all their property confiscated after a public declaration in the town square and in front of their home.
Disgraced in Montréal, the couple moved to Québec City, where daughter Angelique was baptized 14 August and buried 17 September 1681. Son Pierre-Louis was baptized 14 April 1684. Marguerite Tesson died before 22 December 1698. Nicolas Volant was named tutor of her minor children. On 03 May 1700, the Sovereign Council declared Jean-Paul incapable of managing his property and appointed Volant curator of his assets, no doubt to protect his role as guardian of Jean-Paul's children.
About 1685, Jean-Paul had an enfant nature!, a daughter named Marie-Anne, with Fille du Roi Catherine Bruneau. He later married Francoise Meunier (1700) and Anne-Charlotte Petit (1703), but did not have any more children. Jean-Paul Maheu was buried 25 December 1708 at Saint-François, Île d'Orléans.



+       8       vi.       Elisabeth-Isabelle Meunier/Monier, born 17 Feb 1656 in Québec City, QC; died Aft. 10 Apr 1714 in St. Laurent de l'Île d'Orléans, QC.
+       9       vii.       Marguerite-Marie Meunier/Monier, born 04 Aug 1659 in Québec City, QC; died 17 Jun 1733 in St. François de l'Île d'Orléans, QC.
       10       viii.       Mathurin Meunier/Monier, born 08 Dec 1662 in Château Richer, Montmorency, QC; died 14 Feb 1743 in Québec City, QC. He married Marie-Madeleine Meneu-dit-Chateauneuf 22 Nov 1684 in Ste. Famille, Île d'Orléans, QC; born about 1669 in Unknown, QC; died 25 Mar 1703 in L'Ancienne Lorette, QC.
+       11       ix.       Francois Meunier/Monier, born 02 May 1664 in Château Richer, Montmorency, QC; died Bet. 1726 - 1728 in Ste. Anne de Beaupré, Montmorency, QC.


Generation No. 3

       8. Elisabeth-Isabelle3 Meunier/Monier (Mathurin2 Meunier/Monier/LeMousnier, Rene1) was born 17 Feb 1656 in Québec City, QC, and died Aft. 10 Apr 1714 in St. Laurent de l'Île d'Orléans, QC. She married Isaac-Etienne Paquet-dit-Vallee 30 Jun 1670 in Château Richer, Montmorency, QC, son of Mathurin Paquet and Marie Fremillon. He was born about 1636 in La Roche sur Yon, Poitou, France, and died 18 Jun 1702 in St. Laurent de l'Île d'Orléans, QC.
       
Children of Elisabeth-Isabelle Meunier/Monier and Isaac-Etienne Paquet-dit-Vallee are:
       12       i.       Charles4 Paquet-dit-Vallee, born 24 Mar 1673 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; died 12 Oct 1745 in Québec City, QC. He married Jeanne Coulombe 01 Feb 1694 in St. Laurent de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; born 14 Apr 1677 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC.
       13       ii.       Antoine Paquet-dit-Vallee, born 12 May 1678 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; died 02 Jun 1721 in St. Laurent de l'Île d'Orléans, QC. He married Genevieve Paulet 30 Jan 1708 in St. Pierre de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; born 07 Dec 1688 in St. Pierre de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; died 28 Jun 1761 in St. Laurent de l'Île d'Orléans, QC.
       14       iii.       Elisabeth-Isabelle-Marie Paquet-Vallee, born 10 May 1671 in Ste. Famille, Ile Orleans, QC; died 08 Jan 1750 in St. Charles, Bellechasse, QC. She married Pierre Guenet 07 Feb 1689 in St. Laurent I.O., QC; born about 1650 in France; died 19 Aug 1741 in Beaumont, QC.


       9. Marguerite-Marie3 Meunier/Monier (Mathurin2 Meunier/Monier/LeMousnier, Rene1) was born 04 Aug 1659 in Québec City, QC, and died 17 Jun 1733 in St. François de l'Île d'Orléans, QC. She married (1) Pierre Labbe-dit-Lacroix, (Francois & M. Forest) 10 Apr 1674 in Ste. Anne de Beaupré, Montmorency, QC. He was born 30 Jun 1643 in Notre Dame des Marais, Maine, France, and died 04 Jan 1709 in St. François de l'Île d'Orléans, QC. She married (2) Jean Deblois-dit-Gregoire 13 Jun 1710 in St. Francois, Île d'Orléans, Québec Canada. He was born 17 Dec 1665 in Île d'Orléans, QC.

Notes for Pierre Labbe-dit-Lacroix, (Francois & M. Forest):
He arrived as a soldier with the Monteil Company of the Carigan Regiment on 30 June 1665.
       
Child of Marguerite-Marie Meunier/Monier and Pierre Labbe-dit-Lacroix is:
       15       i.       Anne-Marie4 Labbe-dit-Lacroix, born 16 Jul 1679 in St. François de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; died 19 Aug 1758 in Québec City, QC. She married Jean-Francois Allaire/Dallaire 03 Nov 1694 in St. François de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; born 23 Aug 1674 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; died 19 Jul 1721 in Beaumont, QC.


       11. Francois3 Meunier/Monier (Mathurin2 Meunier/Monier/LeMousnier, Rene1) was born 02 May 1664 in Château Richer, Montmorency, QC, and died Bet. 1726 - 1728 in Ste. Anne de Beaupré, Montmorency, QC. He married Angelique Jacob 18 Feb 1692 in L'Ange Gardien, QC (ct 01, Aubert), daughter of Etienne Jacob and Jeanne Fresel. She was born 12 Nov 1671 in L'Ange Gardien, QC, and died 07 Jan 1759 in Ste. Anne de Beaupré, Montmorency, QC.

Notes for Francois Meunier/Monier:
He was listed as being 2 years old in the 1666 Beaupre census.
       
Children of Francois Meunier/Monier and Angelique Jacob are:
       16       i.       Marie-Ursule4 Meunier/Monier, born 15 Apr 1693 in Ste. Anne de Beaupré, Montmorency, QC; died 17 May 1735 in Ste. Anne de Beaupré, Montmorency, QC.
       17       ii.       Joseph Meunier/Monier, born 27 Aug 1695 in Ste. Anne de Beaupré, Montmorency, QC.
       18       iii.       Agnes-Marie Meunier/Monier, born 23 Jan 1698 in Ste. Anne de Beaupré, Montmorency, QC; died 19 Apr 1756 in St. François de la Rivière du Sud, Montmagny, QC. She married Julien Mercier 30 May 1718 in Ste. Anne de Beaupré, Montmorency, QC; born about 1693 in Unknown, QC; died 18 Oct 1763 in Montmagny, QC.
       19       iv.       Jeanne Meunier/Monier, born 19 Aug 1700 in Ste. Anne de Beaupré, Montmorency, QC; died 06 Nov 1770 in St. Joachim, QC. She married Zacharie Bolduc 23 Aug 1728 in St. Joachim, QC; born about 1704 in Unknown, QC.
       20       v.       Angelique Meunier/Monier, born 09 Jun 1702 in Ste. Anne de Beaupré, Montmorency, QC.
       21       vi.       Monique-Marie Meunier/Monier, born 21 Apr 1704 in Ste. Anne de Beaupré, Montmorency, QC; died 01 Feb 1762 in St. François de la Rivière du Sud, Montmagny, QC. She married Joseph Boulet/Boulay 27 Jul 1723 in Ste. Anne de Beaupré, Montmorency, QC; born about 1695 in Unknown, QC; died 24 Sep 1769 in St. François de la Rivière du Sud, Montmagny, QC.
       22       vii.       Marie-Angelique Meunier/Monier, born 11 Mar 1706 in Ste. Anne de Beaupré, Montmorency, QC; died 18 May 1779 in St. François de la Rivière du Sud, Montmagny, QC. She married Jacques Talbot-dit-Gervais, (Jean & C.Sommereux) 01 Jul 1726 in Ste. Anne de Beaupré, Montmorency, QC; born 05 Apr 1704 in Montmagny, QC.
       23       viii.       Genevieve Meunier/Monier, born 05 Jan 1708 in Ste. Anne de Beaupré, Montmorency, QC; died Bef. 28 Aug 1730 in Unknown, QC. She married Etienne Simard-dit-Lombrette 01 Jul 1726 in Ste. Anne de Beaupré, Montmorency, QC; born 16 Nov 1701 in Beaupré, QC; died 12 Nov 1791 in Ste. Anne de Braupré, Montmorency, QC.
       24       ix.       Marie-Francoise Meunier/Monier, born 18 Nov 1709 in Ste. Anne de Beaupré, Montmorency, QC; died 14 Dec 1749 in Petit Rivière St. François, QC. She married Pierre Simard-dit-Lombrette 05 May 1730 in Ste. Anne de Beaupré, Montmorency, QC (ct 4, Jacob the son); born 07 Mar 1705 in Petit Rivière St. François, QC; died 17 Feb 1785 in Petit Rivière St. François, QC.
       25       x.       Marie-Helene Meunier/Monier, born 26 Oct 1711 in Ste. Anne de Beaupré, Montmorency, QC; died 05 Dec 1777 in Ste. Anne de Beaupré, Montmorency, QC. She married Augustin Blouin-dit-Laviolette 16 Apr 1736 in Ste. Anne de Beaupré, Montmorency, QC; born 23 May 1713 in St. Jean de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; died 03 May 1779 in Ste. Anne de Beaupré, Montmorency, QC.
       26       xi.       Marie-Madeleine Meunier/Monier, born 26 Jan 1715 in Ste. Anne de Beaupré, Montmorency, QC; died 23 Oct 1739 in Ste. Anne de Beaupré, Montmorency, QC.

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Hi, I have decided to post all my Québec pioneer ancestor at the different GenForums because a lot of individuals doing genealogy research don’t realize that their ancestors can be found as early as the 1600s.

My resources are limited because I live in Oregon. I hope that you use this information only as a guide. I welcome corrections and additions from anyone that has access to the original files.

Originally I paid a genealogy society to trace the direct lines for 6 of my 8 great grandparents. They used the books that were compiled by volunteers for each parish. Because so many individuals had the same name, I eventually found some errors in these books. Then I used Tanguay and found out that he may be about 75% right and Jette (that goes to 1730) is about 90% right. Then just as I thought that I was finished, I found PRDH (University of Montreal) and I believe that they may be 98% right and still make corrections to their records. They go up to 1799 for marriage contracts and 1850 for some deaths. Some people have the luxury of having the original records at their disposal. I do not have that and with 17,000 individuals in my data base, I can not afford to pay for copies of all the originals. At that point I confirmed every that I had with the records at PRDH. Whenever I say “about” for a birth date it means that PRDH did not find it or if it is in the 1800s, I did not look it up because of my lack of resources.

PRDH uses the most common spelling variation for the names. This makes it easier to trace the families. They do not always use the original name that appears on the contracts or birth records. That is ok with me, because many individuals before the 1900s could not sign their names and did not even care how others spelt it. As a result the same person’s name took on a variety of spellings. I also kept the “dit” (aka) names because eventually brothers from the same family, picked a different aka name. For a very small fee PRDH has all the Canadian records from 1600-1799 and some death dates up to 1850. Their records are about 18% accurate. They can be found at:
http://www.genealogie.umontreal.ca/en/leprdh.htm

As for the pioneers, I also used Peter Gagné’s English books on the single girls that arrived in New France between 1634 & 1662 and his book on the single girls that are referred to as the King’s Daughters that arrived between 1663 & 1673. These girls were recruited and paid by the King to go to New France (Québec) to get married and colonize the area.

For the 1800-1900s I paid to prove my direct lines. My data for their extended family come from people on the web. The program that I use does not allow for baptismal dates, so if I don’t have a birth date, I use the baptismal date. The same goes for death vs. burial dates and actual wedding vs. contract dates. The newer programs have these features, but I will not be going through 18,000 records to make the changes.

Use this information as a guide only. I view genealogy as a hobby and not as pure science. As for the stories, I got them all in French on the web and I translated them for my grandchildren. I had not read or spoken French in over 40 years, so it was difficult and may not be the best translation.

Enjoy, Janet



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