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Re: naming - scholarly work on naming Huguenot practices
Posted by: djarrett (ID *****5436) Date: July 17, 2010 at 18:32:23
In Reply to: Re: naming - scholarly work on naming Huguenot practices by djarrett of 28065

Additionally, they state on their 6/7/2010 post,

[The fact that my grandmother (i.e.Rosie) and Julia knew that her ancestor came through England is what fascinates They were brought through Surat the base of the East India Trading company and from Pakistan and all parts of India which would have been known by such names as Punjab, Bharata or Baluchistan in that day to the people of "East India]. and

[Julia said the East Indian ancestors came through England as indentured with the Copeland family].

However, what "facinates me" is that, this person is unknowingly contradicting themselves. According to my favorite scholarly expert, "Judge Judy" :-), people who are not being truthful, have problems telling their story in a consistent manner.

Their post of 6/10/2010,

in response to another researcher, (BobEllis3357), who is researching his white Dunn's and Copeland's, this person responds to him by stating,

[I'm not aware of the docs that would show the the East Indian servants that were brought with the British Copeland family. I was hoping you had access to these but apparently few have docs further back than the 1800s in Georgia].

Apparently "BobEllis3357" was inquiring about some East Indian Trading Co. docs that this person promised to post.
They didn't post anything that "proves" that the JARRETTS, COPELANDS or WHITEHEADS were Melungeons. Yes, we all know that there were East Indians in colonial America, however, nothing in the information posted that mentions any of my ancestors by name.

I guess one of the reasons I have doubts about this post, is because:

-According to Julia Jarrett's death certificate, d. 4/1930, Ohio, her daughter Rosie/Rosy/Rosa Brown, the informant, age 42 at the time, indicates to the person recording the details on the dc, that she does not know where Julia's mother (Eliza) was born, but somehow was able to remember that Julia's father, Benjamin Jarrett, Sr. was born in Harris County, Georgia. So we now know, that it is not highly likely that Rosie passed down this "folklore".

Julia remained in Harris County, Ga for approx. 75 years before moving to Ohio. All of Julia's children were born in Harris Co., GA. Am I to believe that Julia never told her children where she was born, but she somehow told this story about our ancestors journey to America? If her daughter, Rosie, remembers her grandfather's (Benjamin, 1818) birthplace, as Harris Co. Georgia, surely she would have remembered that Eliza/Lizabeth/Lizzie ca. 1815 was born there too. This is an indication to me that Rosie either didn't know where Eliza's mother was born, just as she told the register of the death, or she simply had a memory problem.

And Rosie, who does not seem to know where her American born grandmother was born, but somehow remembers that her g-grandmother (Eliza/Lizzie) was born in India, and even remembers the course they navigated enroute to America?

Moreover, am I really to believe this when a very large majority of my ancestors remained in Harris Co. Georgia, and the surrounding area, for a many, many years and died there, some still there. A funeral for one of my grandmother's cousins, who lived to be 101 years old, was held there in 2001 that many of my relatives attended.

And out of ALL of Eliza's children, I'm suppose to believe that Julia and her daughter are the only one's who knew this information? Or that Julia Jarrett had such a great command of the English language which had not actually become standarized during this time period, would actually know how to pronounce the names of all of those East Indian locations,such names as Punjab, Bharata or Baluchistan?

According to my cousin, this person was surprised and ignorant to the fact that Juilia Jarrett had moved to Ohio or that she died there. They did not know this until my cousin sent them copies of death certificates for Julia and some of her children, and neither were they aware of a couple of other children that Julia Jarrett had until my cousin told them and sent them info.

I really am hoping, that with the many people who frequent this forum, that something I've posted here will seem familiar, or at the very least, shed some light on these peculiar assertions.


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