Re: Documenting the Melungeons
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Documenting the Melungeons
Marion Pezzullo 7/26/07
Here s a good one i found today a history of Turks in America Prof Salim kkoca and kemal cicek wait maybe you should put your burka before you rspond Aside from the historical evidence that indicates that some Ottomans came to the Americas, there is also a significant amount of linguistic, cultural, medical, and genetic evidence that points to a Mediterranean and Ottoman connection to Melungeons. Examples of similar linguistic and cultural attributes are too numerous to list in its entirely here, but a few examples follow:
Allegheny, a mountain range in the eastern United States, may have come from "Allah genis", meaning "God's vastness";
Alabama, a southern state in the United States, may have come from "Allah bamya", meaning "God's graveyard";
Arkansas, a southern state in the United States, may have come from "Ar Kan Sah", meaning "where shamed blood lives";
Choctow, the name of an Indian tribe, may have come from "?k Dal" meaning "many descendants";
Kentucky, a mid-west US state, may have come from "Kan Tok", meaning "filled with blood";
Niagara, a waterfall along the US-Canadian border, may have come from "Ne Yaygara" meaning "huge noise";
Pamunkey, the name of an Indian tribe, may have come from "Pamuk Iyi", meaning "Good Cotton,? a description that makes even more sense if you consider that the Pamunkey Indians lived in an area know for its cotton farms.
The word "melungeon" itself may have Turkish or Arabic origins. "Melun can" in Turkish and "melun jinn" in Arabic both mean "damned or cursed soul." Furthermore, some Melungeons have names which are clearly Anglicized versions of Turkish names or of places in Anatolia. For example, Danize (from Deniz), Vardeman (from Var Duman), Ollie (from Ali) and Adana (a city in southern Turkey). That many Melungeons have Anglican or Irish last names does not refute the Turkish connection: at that time Turks did not carry last names, and considering the discriminatory practices prevalent during those times, any Melungeon would want to appear as white or Anglican as possible by adopting English or Western European last names. Finally, Melungeons and Turks also share a common mannerism: tossing the head back with a slight vocal clicking to indicate "No" (·‚).
Additionally, Turks and Melungeons share other cultural similarities: Typical Melungeon meals are similar to old Ottoman meals; Melungeon quilts include tulip designs which were common in Ottoman kilims and carpets; patterns of Cherokee quilt designs were similar to those Ottomans incorporated in the wooden lids of backgammon boards; Turkish folk dances share similar steps to Melungeon dances; the garb of Cherokee Chief Sequoya is similar to that worn by 16th century Ottoman seamen, and included the wear of a turban; and the Creek Indians actually wore a fez, a type of headgear that was characteristic of the Ottomans during the 16th and 17th centuries.
Medical, genetic and physiological similarities also exist. Melungeons have come down with sarcoidosis, Behµ‹'s Syndrome and Machado-Joseph Disease, which are also common to peoples of the Mediterranean Sea region. Melungeons also sport a bump on the back of the head
so what do you think ? hows that big ole bumop on your head do YOU click, or are you cliker? or a claker or click claker click click what you Dean are youa clicker clicker click click click or clickclacking clicker.
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