Re: MALUNGU: THE MBUNDU-AFRICAN ORIGIN OF THE AMERICAN MELUNGEONS
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Re: MALUNGU: THE MBUNDU-AFRICAN ORIGIN OF THE AMERICAN MELUNGEONS
Marion Pezzullo 7/23/07
It doesnt make sense, its noted that at the same time later a Scotchman and Dutchman were tracked down and really punished,
The Angolan slaves seem to be slaves. John Gowen is a servant,how could black african slave have the faintest idea of Brittish commonlaw the courts and the customs of even begining to file a ,comes now statement ,at that time, Gawan and Mahill are names distinct to India, the 1st Goans were arriving in England 1600, there are old paintings of east Indian servants in the royal courts of England. . John Gowen appears to have been a East Indian indentured servant from England not a mbbundu tribesman who wouldnt of understood a word of english neverless knew how to raise hoggs, have a 1st name or sur name Gawan Gowen ect India Mihill IndianJust doesnt pan out theway Tim has it.
Where in the world would a Mbundu tribesman learned to write in English? file any type of write or comes now statement to enter a complaint to court magistate sherriff ect.
its just impossible . Also Chinese Arabs anyone with dark hair skin other than white are just called Black even to this day in Australia New Zealand it is still the same most Islanders are called Blacks as are the Maoris. ther national team is called the All Blacks. Tims order of generrations is exellant but the 1st part doesnt panout. Its more logical that Gowen was a East indian arrivedin England then was indentured with several Scotsman Dutchmen ect,
Middle Africans wont go anywhere near a Hogg Muslim Christain ect whereas hogg raisng Thailand Burma South Indiacommon bussiness.
from Cantaberry Project
Xavier's greatest work in India was done amongst the low-caste Paravas far away from Goa, near Cape Comorin. These people, who had been for long years sorely oppressed by Mahomedan pirates, applied to the Portuguese for help. This they were promised on condition that they embraced Christianity. Amongst them Xavier spent two whole years of his Indian missionary career. "He went from village to village, calling crowds of men and boys together in a fitting place for instruction, by means of a hand-bell. Within a month the boys had almost learned by heart what he had recited to them, and they were then enjoined to teach it to their parents, comrades, and neighbours. On Sundays he assembled men and women, boys and girls, in a consecrated building, into which they streamed with joyful zeal. The service simply consisted in his repeating once more, very clearly, the aforesaid passages; they were then repeated by the congregation, the whole being interspersed with prayers offered at regular intervals." And yet, although he had himself baptised thousands of these people, Xavier was wholly dissatisfied with the result of his labours and doubted whether greater success were possible in India. In a letter to Ignatius Loyola, 1549, he writes: "The natives (of India) are so terribly wicked that they can never be expected to embrace Christianity. It is so repellent to them in every way that they have not even patience to listen when we address them on the subject; in fact, one might just as well invite them to allow themselves to be put to death as to become Christians. We must now therefore limit ourselves to retaining those who are already Christians."
Costa has indentified already East Indians Goans who were listed in one document Negro then another as Mulatto then east indian. as i understand the Goan historical society in London is presently researching the same subject and seems to be having results.