Re: Thomas Gibson a Welshman White not Mulatto., GIBBY
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Thomas Gibson a Welshman White not Mulatto., GIBBY
jan lala 6/17/07
Ok 1st of all what does Charles City have to do with any of This. The individuals in this matter live in Surry County, to get from Surry co to Chales City County you have cross the James then go all the way across York County over thru James City then up to Charles County.
This matter involves Surry County i dont see the point of bringing Charles City County into it, if thier records burned it burned 4 counties away from this subject,
Its established Thomas Sheevers was Irish White came from Ireland. arrived with his wife 4 children.
There is only one other Chavis family that Immigrated to Virginia 1700 they was French Huguenots , arrival after the fact of this subect although there is a connection between the French Huguenots and the Gilbbert Gibson and Lemay family it a whole geration below the timleline of this subject
For and in consideration of two good Young Cowes to be such as shall be chosen by me Ralph Creed out of ye whole stocke of Tho: Chiffers his cattle upon demand as also for ye payment of ffower Thousand pounds of good Tobacco and Corke payable 10th of October next and foure thousand pounds more of like tobacco and Corke to be paid the 20th day of October thence next comeing which shall be in ye year 1660 I the said Ralph Creed have bargained and sold unto Tho: Chiffers. His heires and successors for ever Eleven hundred and odd Acres of Land At ye head of Sunken Marsh neare upper Chippoakes in Surry County which was lately in ye Occupation off Richard Hill and sould unto mee [sic] the said Ralph Creed by Geo: Jordan by order of Court and alsoe by ordr of ye Grand Assembly...to be held by ye said Tho: Chivers...ye sd Ralph Creed Doe further ingoiyn my Selfe to Deliver unto ye sd Tho: Chivers or his assigns A pattent for ye said Tract of land in his and there owne names upon reasonable demand And a witnesse of ye truth hereof as also to binde me…to ye true and faithful performance hereof I the said Ralph Creed for my Selfe and them have hereunto Sett my hand and seale ye 20th of May 1659. Sealed Signed and Delvd in ye psence of Ralph Creed his black wax marke R Tho: fflood Christ CL Lewis, Acknowledged in Court by Ralph Creed et uxor."
There is only one Shevers here in in Surry county 4 counties away from Charles City County. Its Thomas Chivers. one year after he arrived from Ireland where he and his family are still Irsih and White.
We the Subscribers to this Verdict being impannalled as a Jury by Order of the Isle of Wight Court dated the 9th June 1658 in a difference between Major Nicholas Hill Plt and John Snellock Deft to see the Patent for Land which Major Hill bought of Col. Bernard wholy Surveyed, Have in Obedience to the sd Order wth much Care and Pains observed the Surveyor to perfect and compleat the same according to Patent to ye utmost of our Knowledge & Judgments and to Satiusfy that the Surveyo Thomas Woodward following the Head Line of the Mile upon the Land on James River formerly belonging to Mr. Justinian Cooper came ypon John Snelllock’s Land wthin two Chains or thereabout of ye Northernmost Branch of Pagan Creek which part the sd Snellock’s Land and Edward Prince and so along the said Branch as it runs upwards towards Mr. Charles Barocrofts to a Corner Tree of the said Coopers and from thence along ye Swamp to ye marked Tree of Ely and Pantios and to the Mill Dam and so down the Swamp to ye head of Lawnes Creek and so along the Land of Robert Lawrence to ye said lawrences corner marked Tree joyining upon Coopers Line ye Computation of the whole patent of Col. Bernard’s Land according to Mr. Thomas Woodwards Report to Us being Nine Hundred Acres including therein all the Housing & Land as abovesd that the said John Snellock now lives upon which we do find to belong to the said Major Hill according to the Survey made by Us and Mr. Woodward. AS WITNESS our hands this 28th day of July 1658.
Thomas [TL] Lewis Thomas Taberer
St. Mount Wells Robert [R:B] Bird
Edward [E:P] Pryme Francis [FI] Ingland
Peter Bedford Charles Barecroft
Thos: [T: C:] Chivers Edmond Wichins
Robert Kea Edward Bichenoe
Here is Thomas Chivers on a grand jury 4 counties away from Charles City County thier here, not Charles City.
Elizabeth Shiversrecords of Surry County as an orphan, when she was owed a mare by her guardian to be paid “when she comes of age.” Her guardian was Robert Cartwright, and he gave bond between April 13 and May 3, 1664.66
There is only one Elizabeth Chavis Chivers ect who lived in Surry county there is only one Chavis family that lived ib virginia that was Thomas Chivers who was White Irish ect. His daughter was elizabeth chavis was boundto her guardian in Surry county virg 4 counties away from Charles City CountyThis upon the death of Thomas Chivers , she listed as a Orphan
In surry county 1664 it means she is the Orphan of Thomas Shivers in Surry coa long way from Charles City co
shes White and she s Irish
“William Shivers” when he chose his guardian, following the death of Richard Cartwright in 1676:
July 4, 1676, “Wm Chivers Orpht of Tho: Chivers, hath made choyce of Wm Carpinder for his Guardian, who is Ordrd top take the sd Orpht & his Estate into his Custody, and give Security for ye same at the Next Cort.”74
1676, on March 28th, “Wm Shivers hath made choyce of Jno Orchard for Guardian, who is to appeare at the next Cort & bring Security for the said Orpts. Estate,”
Upun the death of Carwrightwho was the gurdian of Elizabeth Chavis and her brother William/ , William made the choice of John Orchard, the Surry Court made the choice him William Carpenter, his estae was his dead fathers property.
note] on the tax list list Elizabeth was listed as the sevant in Capenters house with William being listed as tithable of Carpenter.
On 3 May 1681 “Wm Shivers appeareing in Cort & acknowledgeing a discharge to Wm Carpinder it is Admitted to Record.”
his “sisters,” which included Elizabeth and Petronella, as deceased – a“9br 1st 1681. Wm Shivers appeareing in Cort & acknowledgeing a deede of sale of a Pcell of Land to Tho: Peddington It is therefore Admitted to Record.80” In this deed, which is the sale of 200 acres of certain woodlands, William refers to the Creed land as land “given to me by my father in his Last Will and Testament,” and the rest given to “my sisters and fallen to me by their death.”
At disposement of Estae upon relaese of guardian ship he notes Elizabith and Petronella were his sisters the estate from his father Thomas Chivers from Ireland White and Irsh.
upon the death of Thomas Chivers his daughter Elizabeth and son William were bound to Cartwight upun his death William chose John orchard for him and Elizabeth. the court made the order to Capernter.
Thats it proven no guessing all Surry courtand Deed book. In Surry 4 counties away from from Charles city. Thomas Chivers was White his daughter Elizabeth Chavis was White therefore Thomas gibson also being White could not produce a Multtao from Elizabeth Chavis all bioligicall and histoirical facts
I will do a follow up to show the source microfilm ect and a The Universety of Virgina. and few more facts by the way Thomas Gibson notes are over in new Kent St Peter St Paul area which is 5 counties away from Surry once you got to Charles you made a right turn to New Kent.
Show me another Elizabeth Chavis in Virgina besides this one
Show me another Chavis family at this [timeline] in Virginia
show me Elizabeth Chavis recovering her son Gibby Gibson in the Charles court not the Surry court in the meantime ill go to the followup show the the source s ect
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Re: Thomas Gibson a Welshman White not Mulatto., GIBBY
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Re: Thomas Gibson a Welshman White not Mulatto., GIBBY
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Re: Thomas Gibson a Welshman White not Mulatto., GIBBY
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Re: Thomas Gibson a Welshman White not Mulatto., GIBBY