Re: Gibson Family
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Vance Hawkins 12/26/06
>>>>>>She also has spent a lot of time on the Cherokee boards arguing that many Melungeons are really Cherokee and used as her proof rejecred applications from the Miller-Guion rolls. She neglected to say the people she used as "proof" were REJECTED because they showed no real relationship with the NORTH CAROLINA Cherokee, but her anger was towards the Oklahoma Cherokee who had nothing to do with them being rejected by the North Carolina Cherokee. She attempted to deceive as she did not mention the primary source of hte material she was referring to. I happened to mention thoswe questions asked were similar to the Questions asked on a miller-Guion Application, and looked up the roll number of the person she was quoting. A Cherokee genealogist who posts there often had a copy of those applications and looked up the roll number/surname, and quoted from it. Had she been unbiassed in her research she would have mentioned these things in her comment, but she just hoped no one would notice.
I suspect those people on the rejected rolls might be part Indian -- but they are NOT Cherokee -- probably more closely related to the Catawba than Cherokee . <<<<<<<<<<
VANCE.... Number one there are many people whofiled Cherokee applications who were called Melungeons.There are also many of these same people who were recognized as CHEROKEE INDIANS living AS INDIANS together in an INDIAN TOWN in Magoffin Co., Ky.But because their ancestors hid in the hills rather than being on a roll they were rejected. That does not negate their DNA -- what part of that don't you understand?
And you know also that I posted the fact that the "Cherokee Beloved Woman -Nancy Ward" had descendants who wereREJECTED because their ancestors DID NOT WALK and were not on the rolls..... You or your CHEROKEE GENEALOGIST never denied this or explained it.
I attempted to deceive?Vance you are skating on thin ice. This is nothing but a personal attack --- I explained to you several times the Lawson DNA came back Q3 -- that means they are INDIAN --- and they filed Cherokee applications but were denied -- again because their ancestors lived on Newman's Ridge and were not on 'THE ROLLS' -- it does not mean they WERE NOT Cherokee.... and there are Lawson in the same area that are NOT Q3 --- which application were you quoting--- do you even know?You said I 'HOPED NO ONE WOULD NOTICE'? ---- Vance I don't research and I don't post like that.You have again twisted something that you can not explain.A "Q3" INDIAN LAWSON on Newman's Ridge who filed a CHEROKEE application.And Elizabeth Gibson Mullins who under oath declared her grandfather spoke only CHEROKEE...you said she made it all up -- just to collect some money.
And then after all this Vance has declared them Catawba -- because he 'SUSPECTS' --- and he KNOWS they are not Cherokee....
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