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Re: Smith/Irwin
Posted by: Jennifer Stinson (ID *****3165) Date: February 01, 2007 at 12:43:34
In Reply to: Re: Smith/Irwin by Thomas Kerwin of 16601

These are the only birthdates I have...
oldest- Charles William "Bill" Smith - b. 20 Apr 1930,d. 21 Jul 1985
2nd born- Raymond Leroy Smith - ? living, but horribly ill
3rd born- Dorothy Madge Smith - 29 Jun 1934 - living
4th born - Mary Elanore Smith - ? living, but no contact
5th born - Joseph Earl Smith - ? unknown

mother: Beatrice Rosealee Cooper b. 23 Aug 1895, d. 19 Dec 1975
father: Okie Jeramiah Irwin/Smith b. ? d. ?

the only ones I have found on the SSDI is Beatrice (mother) and Bill (oldest son) Bill was in the military, very decorated (he joined the military to stay out of jail, as a teen, made a career out of the military) Bill only had one daughter, and she knows nothing of their past, and isn't much help otherwise either

Dorothy's husband, who was also in the military located the 3 siblings when she and he first married. Other than that they have been unable to locate any other relatives. Dorothy, to my knowledge, never met her birth mother, but Mary was in contact with her just before she died.
Dorothy tells me that she has copies of the birth certs of all 5 children, but is unabke to locate them, she's misplaced them.

This is bascially all the info I have other than, their father was married when he got Beatrice pregnant, he left his wife and 2 other children to be with Beatrice, and had the rest of the children. When he passed away, Beatrice began prostituting to feed her children, and the two oldest boys stole to keep food on the table, which is how they both got into trouble with the law. The others were very young and the state came in and took all the children away from the home, and placed them in foster care.


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