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Update on McKee Group 1, FTDNA
Posted by: linda mckee (ID *****5772) Date: January 05, 2012 at 10:26:02
In Reply to: My Ambrose McKee is from Saintfield area of County Down by linda mckee of 5279

We published the following post on the M222 Mailing List at RootsWeb last month. Now, wish to share with all our McKee folks here at the McKee Genforum.

From: Linda <>
Subject: [R-M222] FTDNA McKee Group 1 has roots in Scotland
Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2011 10:18:06 -0600

Hello List,

McKee Group 1 has roots in Scotland.

For Group 1 at FTDNA McKee Group consisting of 16 members we have the
following hypothesis:

Kit N64222 Craig McKie is a proven Kirkcudbright Scotland descendant
with his ancestors having moved to Tasmania first quarter of nineteenth
century and descendants returning to England from Tasmania second half
of nineteenth century.

Craig McKie is our Group 1 direct link to southwest Scotland.

If 24 generations is 24 x 30 years = 740 years before present, that
would put the relevant reference year at c. 1270 AD.

We know for a more or less certainty due to Bannockburn in 1314 and
subsequent land grants c. 1325 that Craig's lot were in Galloway at
thatpoint, and specifically in Kirkcudbrightshire and surrounds (Larg,
TheRhinns, Dundrennan, Dumfries, etc.). The fact that someone
bestowedthe middle name of Galloway on Craig's father merely reinforces

If a common ancestor for Craig and the five listed below existed c.1270,
he most likely lived in Galloway. Thus, assuming thecalculations below
are correct, all the persons listed below mustbe Scots of Gael origin,
probably Cinel Loarn, descendents of Gaelsliving in Scotland for many
generations (either in Galloway or comedown from Strathnaver), speaking
Gaelic, with a primary cultural,military and political affiliation to
the Connachton factionhistorically fronted by the Lord of the Isles,
Donald, on Skye.

If the five listed below find later evidence points to Ulster, thenthe
conclusion must be that they descend from Scottish Plantation eramigrants.

That's how we see things now. All subject to revision in light of
muchdata likely to emerge in the coming years. We still think there is
amaster migration map hidden in the sequence of mutation accretion.

Craig McKie's yDNA matches with several McKee Group members follow with
the data being used from the FTDNA tip reports at 67 markers:

FTDNA Kit 76794 shared a common ancestor with N64222 at 24 generations
is 98.79%.

Kit 187442 at 24 generations is 98.65%.

Kit 127187 at 24 generations is 95.55%.

Kit 151014 at 24 generations is 89.84%.

Kit 88883 at 24 generations is 85.65%.

Further matches with Group 1 members at 37 markers at 24 generations:

151780 33/37 for 97.04%
93539 33/37 for 96.90%
171920 32/37 for 89.64%
147469 32/37 for 89.29%
74988 32/37 for 89.64%
205205 32/37 for 92.46%
194487 31/37 for 92.02%
106158 31/37 for 89.68%

One member at 111 markers (127187 McKee) matches 95.55% and Craig
McKie's 111 marker test results only have one more panel for being
finished and only 1 gd off with 127187 on the additional panels so far.

Craig McKie, McKee Group Member N64222

Linda McKee, Admin McKee Group (for 127187 McKee)

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