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I have seen the story at the bottom of this posting in several places about the Manzer/Manser/Mansur family genealogy, and I have always had a question regarding certain details.
Specifically, this:
"On May 2, 1635 James Manzer, born 1608, sailed from England to the Barbados on the Alexander. He took part in the battle of Jamaica and family legend says he was given the right to use the family coat of arms for his part in the battle.
In 1760 (+/-) when Britain raised the taxes in Barbados and Jamaica, he, along with many others, moved to Long Island to a place they named Jamaica."
What bothers me is that in 1635, James Manzer (then 27 years old) sailed from England to Barbados. In 1760, "he, along with many others, moved to Long Island to a place they named Jamaica."
This would make James Manzer about 152 years old when he came to Long Island... This raises a couple of questions for me... Is this a mistake in the dates and should it actually be 1660 rather than 1760? I'm embarrassed to say that I don't know enough about the history and timeline of Long Island to know if 1660 is a feasible date.
Because of the reference to other 18th century dates after the move to Long Island, it would seem that 1760 would be the correct date, so was James Manzer actually born in 1708 and leave England in 1735? Alternatively, is there a large chunk of ancestral information missing in between 1635 and 1760? Has anyone else worked this out?
Finally, a quick web search for "Battle of Jamaica" (in which James Manzer allegedly took part in Barbados somewhere between 1635 and 1760) brings us to another seeming inconsistency. There was a Battle of Jamaica...about 1734...on Long Island...
I've been unable to find any other references to these inconsistencies or a possible solution, but it's possible I'm just not looking in the right places. Help!
"The Manzer family is of Germanic origin, probably from Southern Germany. In terms of heraldry the Blazon of Arms reads: "MANZER" Arms: Argent, a tower gules, porticulled or, on a mount of three hills sable. Crest: the tower. The first one to have this coat of arms was of royalty or near royalty.
Sometime before 1635 one or more of the Manzer family went to England. On May 2, 1635 James Manzer, born 1608, sailed from England to the Barbados on the Alexander. He took part in the battle of Jamaica and family legend says he was given the right to use the family coat of arms for his part in the battle.
In 1760 (+/-) when Britain raised the taxes in Barbados and Jamaica, he, along with many others, moved to Long Island to a place they named Jamaica.
In 1778 the Manzer property was located near what is now the Long Island end of the Brooklyn Bridge.
On July 5, 1778 five descendents of James Manzer joined the DeLancey Brigade, 2nd Batallion. They were Christopher, Barnet, Martin, Daniel and John. Christopher and Barnet later became Sergeants. All were single at this time except Barnet who was married to Mary Lester. The 2nd Battalion, was formed for the purpose of defending the property on Long Island. When it was transferred to Georgia, the Manzer boys transferred to the 3rd and continued their part of the war on Long Island. However, at the end of the war they went back to the 2nd and came with the 2nd to New Brunswick as United Empire Loyalists in 1783, with the exception of Daniel, who went to Stanstead in 1801. He married Nancy Davis.
Family:
Lois Sept. 7, 1799- ,
John- July 2,1802 - ,
Daniel - Aug. 7,1804 - ,
Ruth - Mar.14, 1806 -,
Horace - Mar.20,1808 - ,
Nancy - Aug.8,1811 - ,
Valerie - May 27, 1814.
The New Brunswick Manzers stayed in St. John for a time, Barnet and Mary living on four acres bounded by what are now known as Waterloo and Golding Streets.
Eventually they went on to their lots in Queens County, Christopher and Barnet to Waterboro, Martin to Washademoak and John to Wickham.
Barnet later moved to Gagetown and later still to Briggs Corner near Chipman."
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