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Re: James Manville - Cazenovia, WI -
Posted by: Mark Manville Date: September 08, 2001 at 23:06:10
In Reply to: James Manville - Cazenovia, WI - by George Barrington of 76

>Looking for information on parents of my great grandfather, James Manville born in 1833 and died 1891 in Cazenovia, WI. Richland County. Married Mary McGlynn Manville with children, Mary Ellen (known as Mayme), Ruth McGlynn Becker, Agnes McGlynn, James, John and Tom - perhaps others.

George, we would appear to be related, though through an unknown connection in Ireland ...

James ("Jim" my great aunt Helen Milfred called him -- she was where I am getting most of the info I am giving you) was my great great grandfather's (Owen Manville's) brother. As you know, he married Mary McGlynn, and had a farm in the town of Westford, Richland County WI. Owen & his wife Rose (Kernan) had another farm less than 10 miles away, on the road between Ironton and Cazenovia (& still in the family, currently owned by my cousin). Owen obtained the 240 acres(less now) by buying it from the govt, after it was rejected as "wilderness" by the War of 1812 veteran, who was given it as a bounty for his service; it's probably a good bet James got his the same way, I don't know.

I know of no other children than you mention (in fact, I did not know of Ruth). Tom was killed in a mining accident in Wyoming in 1916; John never married, and remained on the farm; both are buried in St. Bridgets cemetary, Cazenovia, along with James and Mary. James Jr. moved to Washington state & had a family there.

Owen and James came to the United States in the early 1850s from Ireland, via Crown Point, NY, along with a third brother, John. I don't know the exact date, but Owen bought his land on 11/1/1854 (we still have the original deed, signed by Franklin Pierce), so it obviously earlier than that. James and Owen split with John in Milwaukee, and no one knows what happened to him, but my great aunt Helen said that her father (died 1926) speculated that he might have been involved with the Johns-Manville building company founded there.

Owen Manville died young (1880) and left his wife Rose with a number of minor children. According to Helen, her father (Owen's son, Tom) said that James was a help in those hard years, as well as Rose's brother Francis who had also come out to Ironton. Rose and Owen (and many of their descendants) are buried in the Ironton (Calvary) cemetery.

Unfortunately I have no information on the ancestory of Owen/James/John, probably because Owen died so young (my great grandfather Tom was only eight, and so never really had a chance to learn it). I of course would appreciate any info you might have turned up yourself, or even info on James and his family.

Hope this helps.

ps. rereading this I fear it may be confusing who is who. The ancestoral tree:

???
|
Owen - James - John
|
Tom
| \
Tom Helen
|
Larry
|
Me

note this leaves out lots of branches (eg Tom & Helen had nine other siblings).

pps. Helen referred to your grandmother as "Mamie"


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