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Edna Mangum & Christopher Griffin, (1793-1839)
Posted by: John Pfost (ID *****1274) Date: November 15, 2007 at 10:04:38
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For a number of years, a number of persons have been researching their known progenitor, William Crow (b. ca. 1810, SC), in hopes of being able to extend the family back into colonial times. Within the past few years, the search has been complicated by DNA findings that indicate that William Crow actually descends from a common Griffin family line, and also includes a Mangum family line.

WILLIAM CROW

WILLIAM CROW, b. ca. 1810, SC; d. Jan. 1865; mar. 1) bef. 1835, prob. SC, NANCY HARRIETT CLARDY, b. ca. 1810, SC; d. 1852, GA; d/o Elliott and Margaret (Faris) Clardy. William mar. 2) 15 Jan 1855, Bartow Co., GA, SUSAN E. McEVER, b. 25 Feb 1826; d/o Brice M. and Lieuraney (Caswell) McEver. William and Nancy had nine children, and William and Susan had four children. William was in Cass (later Bartow) County, Georgia from 1840 through 1865.

In a biographical sketch, his son, Calvin Jones Crow, notes that “his paternal grandfather, William Crow, a planter of South Carolina, was a native of that State, and a descendant of Scottish-Irish ancestry, that came to America during colonial times.” Thus William Crow (b. 1810, SC) may have been a son of William Crow (a planter).

DNA TESTING

The Crow family DNA site indicates the common relatives of William Crow as belonging to the “Orange” group, of which William Crow (b. ca. 1810, SC) is the oldest identified ancestor. See Crow DNA Test Results: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~crow2000/dnagroupchart.htm.

It was determined that this group is also common to the Griffin family’s “G” group. See Griffin Family DNA Results: http://www.griffith.dna.rdgriffith.com/results.htm.

Additionally, a Mangum family DNA participant also shows a relationship to this group, which is designated as the “William Mangum Lineage of VA and Newberry Co., SC” or “G2” group. See Mangum Family DNA Results: http://mywebpages.comcast.net/lynn.parham/DNA3.htm.

In the discussion of the findings at the Mangum family DNA site, we find:

“This family descends from John Mangum, b. 1732 in Virginia. John Mangum (b. 1732) is the father of the Revolutionary patriot John Mangum, born 1763. He is also the father of William Mangum, born 1756 in the Albemarle Parish, Surry Co., VA., who in turn is the father of Edna Mangum. This 1732 John moved with his family from Surry Co., VA to Lunenburg, VA, now called Mecklenburg County, then to Craven Co., SC and finally to Newberry County, SC.

Son William, who was in Newberry Co., SC by 1779, married Anna Goggins and had possibly 11 children, including the Rev. Daniel Mangum, and Edna Mangum born about 1800. The traditional genealogy of this family shows that Edna married John Redrick Glenn and had several children including Hillary Richmond Glenn. The lineage also shows that her brother William Mangum Jr. had son Hillary Richard Mangum and he was the ancestor of our DNA participant, to which this discussion applies. Recent research by a family historian indicates that Hillary Richard Mangum, son of William Jr. did not exist. Instead, there are indications that Edna Mangum had a son by Christopher Griffin before her marriage to John Glenn. That son was probably Hillary Richmond Mangum and not Hillary Richmond Glenn as shown in the printed lineage. We believe the descendents of the non-existent Hillary Richard Mangum are actually those of Hillary Richmond Mangum, son of Edna Mangum and Christopher Griffin. If so, then our DNA participant descends from Christopher Griffin and Edna Mangum.”

Thus, the break in the Mangum family line seems to be at the alleged child of Edna Mangum and Christopher Griffin.

EDNA (GLENN) MANGUM

A cursory search for Edna (Glenn) Mangum at Rootsweb provided the following:

“Source: John T. Palmer's "The Mangums of VA, NC, SC...," Second edition, page 6 and Mangum information from Joel M. Thomas, PO Box 6038, Marietta, GA, 1 Apr 1996.

Source: Joel M. Thomas of PO Box 6038, Marietta, GA 30065 in a letter to me dated 28 March 1996 submits information which he feels clearly proves that Hillary Richmond Mangum was the son of Edna Mangum Glenn and Christopher Griffin.

He notes that Anna Mangum, mother of Edna, refers to Hillary Richmond in her will as her grandson; that the will of Christopher Griffin states he has a son named Hillary Richmond Mangum or Griffin; and that John F. Glenn, husband of Edna Mangum Glenn in his estate notes that he has three children: William G, James F, and Daniel C. Nowhere in his estate file is Hillary Richmond Mangum named.

The arguments are persuasive and difficult to repute. Why Maron Summers Eve notes Hillary Richmond as Hillary Richard Mangum in her book is never explained. Mr. Thomas feels that Hillary Richard Mangum never lived.”

HILLARY RICHMOND (GRIFFIN) MANGUM

Likewise, a cursory search for Hillary Richmond (Griffin) Mangum at Rootsweb also provided the following.

“Notes from Maron Summer Eve notes that Francis Marion had Francis Marion Mangum Jr. She places Hillary Richmond Mangum as a child of William Mangum Jr; Joel M. Thomas of Marietta, GA, in a letter to me, 1 Apr 1996, disputes this relationship. He feels Hillary Richmond was a son of Edna Glenn and Christopher Griffin without benefit of clergy.

Joel M. Thomas notes in his letter to me:
Will of Anna Mangum states Hillary Richmond is her grandson and is the son of her daughter Edna Glenn. Hillary's share came out of Edna's share. If William Jr had been the father, the share would have come from him.

When John F. Glenn, husband of Edna Mangum Glenn died, he noted in his estate that he had three children: William G., James F., and Daniel C. Nowhere in his estate file is Hillary Richmond Mangum named.

When Hillary Richmond Mangum died without a will, his estate was administered by James F. Glenn who states he is the half brother of Hillard Richmond Mangum. Hillary's wife had already died and he left three children: Hillary Harrison Mangum, William Yancy Mangum, and Elvira Mangum.

Will of Christopher Griffin states he has a son named Hillary Richmond Mangum or Griffin. He left a bequest to Hillary as he does to the rest of his family. All records refer to Hillary Richmond with the name of Mangum. Had he been adopted or a child of John F. Glenn he would not have used the Mangum
name.

Joel F. Thomas of PO Box 6038, Marietta, GA 30065, 28 March wrote:
"From the above information I believe Hillary Richmond Mangum was the son of Edna Mangum and Christopher Griffin possibly without the benefit of Clergy.”

Joel Thomas noted, "I have found no evidence that Hillary Richard Mangum ever lived. Hillary Richmond Mangum shows up in Federal Census and was born in 1823 same year William Jr's first wife Isabella McKittrick died.”

CHRISTOPHER GRIFFIN

The following was found via an Internet search.

Christopher Griffin was born 26 May 1793, and died 13 [?] 1839. He is buried in the Bush River Baptist Church Cemetery in Newberry County, South Carolina.

A partial transcription of the record book of the Bush River Baptist Church includes the following entry for April 1830, “Crusoe a man of color belonging to Christopher Griffin.” The names of male members also records Christopher Griffing and Charles B. Griffing. Other names in the transcript include Griffins, Crows, Mangums, and John Glenn. See Bush River Baptist Church Record Book, 1771-1923: http://www.coatsarchive.us/analysisdocs/busrivbaptrans.pdf.

From a transcript of the book “Newberry County, South Carolina: Historical and Genealogical Annals” by George Leland Summer, Sr., we also find:

“The first settlers of the family of Griffin came from Virginia before the Revolutionary War and settled in the counties of Abbeville, Laurens and Newberry -- some later moving over into Edgefield. There were three brothers, Richard, Anthony and William (sons of John Griffin, a Welshman) who came from Virginia and settled in the southern section of the present county of Laurens (then Ninety-Six District).

James and William Griffin were brothers, or cousins and came directly to Newberry County from Virginia (Newberry County was then a part of Ninety-Six District).

Christopher Griffin died Newberry County in 1832, married Phoebe (Unkn). Their children were: William B. Griffin and Hillary Mangum or Griffin.”

I would appreciate any additional information on Christopher Griffin.

Many thanks and best regards,

John


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