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LUMSDEN/LUMSDON - NE England - and others!
Posted by: Clifford Allison (ID *****5204) Date: June 27, 2004 at 03:54:29
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I’m sorry to post so many messages in a short while, but am on a bit of a roll at present. I believe that the LumsdOn and LumsdEn families connect. I have gathered quite a bit of miscellaneous information, and the answer to the jigsaw puzzle may lie in St Hilda’s, South Shields. To avoid confusion, please bear with me whilst I recite what I have found now.

Joseph Edward LUMSDON was a native of Sunderland, living between 30th June 1821 and 22nd January 1902. His father and mother were Edward LUMSDON and Margaret LIDDEL, who married at St Hilda’s Church in South Shields on 18th November 1813. Father and son were both chainmakers on the River WEAR, probably at Monkwearmouth.

I am working on a temporary hypothesis that an Elizabeth LUMSDON I have found (b. 1804-5 in Newcastle) is a sister to Edward. She married William WATT who was a chainmaker on the (close by) River TYNE somewhere east of Newcastle (South Shields?). Their son Richard WATT (b. 1829) continued the Tyneside business. There is a certain logic in a marriage between 2 chainmaking families, albeit they are “makem” and “takem” respectively!

For those who do not know England well, Newcastle is on the River Tyne in NE England. Sunderland/Monkwearmouth is just a few miles south, on the River Wear.

I have now found a Mary Jane LUMSDEN, who married a LEIGHTON and emigrated to New Zealand with her Husband in 1892. In the 1881 census she and her brother Ralph were living with her Grandmother Jane PATTERSON. Her father, John (LUMSDEN?), emigrated to USA in 1864. John married twice more and had the total of eight children. Ralph LUMSDEN married Mary Emma GOVETT. After the birth of their first child, they moved to Iowa, USA.

I have also found a William LUMSDON. He was born of a Scottish father and an English mother, details unknown. He lived most of his life in England. As a young man he served in the Royal Navy. He was in the Navy at the time of the war of 1812 and was among those who raided and partially burned the city of Washington. After he served his time in the Navy, he was an engineer and quite a skilled mechanic. It was his job to keep all of the village clocks in repair (not sure where!). William LUMSDON married Mary Hardy? (Mary Hunter) and they had five children. As William had to tend to the children and rock them sometimes, it is said that he invented a machine by which to rock the cradle.

William LUMSDON had a son called John LUMSDON, a native of Newcastle. John had two brothers who went to Iowa, William (b. Durham 1911) and James. John was b. Newcastle approx.1838. I am not sure whether this John LUMSDON is the same as the John LUMSDEN emigrated to USA in 1864 (supra).

I need to establish

(1)Whether Edward, Elizabeth, and William LUMSDON were siblings. This seems likely as they all originate from about the same area at about the same time, i.e. turn of the eighteenth/ nineteenth century, from the Newcastle area.

(2)Who the parents of William LUMSDON (and his siblings?) were, and where they came from.

(3)Whether John LUMSDEN (emigrated to USA in 1864) is the same person as the John LUMSDON (born about 1838 in Newcastle), a son of William LUMSDON.

This is all quite a tall order, but I’m hoping somebody has already “been there” and may know these answers already. If the Tyneside LUMSDONS worshipped at St Hilda’s South Shields, then that will be where answers could have been found.

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