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Hi, Dee, bena long time since I posteda message. I was offline for four years. Througha compnay called Currans Heraldry of Shannon, County Galway I have obtained a scroll of the Ludden family history which confirms that Ludden is one of many derivatives of O'Loidan. The family crest is the Irish Harp and there is also a coat of arms.Ludden is found in Galway, Mayo and County Clare in the 17th, 18th and 19th Centuries but there are no records prior to that. The Fleur de Lys which is the crest of the Prince of Wales and a French Royal emblem as well is one of the devices on the coat of arms which may suggest intermarriage with the early french nobility who were given land in Ireland by William I of England, Duke of Normandy, The Irish names Fitzherbert, Fitzwilliam are Norman in origin, Fitz being the same as Mc ie son of. O before an Irish name denotes grandson of, so O'Loidan means Grandson of Loidan. The Irish Harp crest suggests a once powerful family as the Harp isa very potent asymbol in Ireland and is the official crest of the President of Ireland.Currans will supply copies of the scroll for 20 Euros.they havea website. Sliante Geoff