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Here is Johns Line
John Casimer Lorenz. born 11/21/1886 to Christopher Lorenz and Phoebe Hoffman. Christopher was born about 1863 to Cassimer Lorenz and Margaret Helmrich. Cassimer was born on 6/24/1832 in Oderheim, Bavaria, Germany to Johannes Adam Lorenz and Christina Eiler. Johannes was born on 1/5/1776 in Oderheim, Bavaria, Germany to Gabriel Lorenz and Phillipine Graef. Please let me know if there is any connection.
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