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"... how can one tlak ab out bringing glory when theres no glory to talk about in the first place, the ancestors would have to achive gory first.."
You mean you don't think latter generations are capable of great achievement? All achievements must be accomplished in the anccents time? You and those after you are doomed to sing the praise of Fu Shen only? More important your clan will not have anybody who can achieve more in life?
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