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Re: Mary Buckner?? Mary Chew?? or Mary Adkinson ??
Posted by: Bill Davidson (ID *****1886) Date: June 08, 2011 at 12:13:35
In Reply to: Re: Mary Buckner?? Mary Chew?? or Mary Adkinson ?? by Rebecca Owens of 2648

Thanks. The William Brown who fathered the daughter named Mary Brown (who married James Landrum) is who I call William Brown "I" (or "Senior"). He also fathered a known son who I call William Brown "II" (or "Junior"). This younger William Brown was apparently the one who married Margaret Cloutson/Clouson. I do not know for certain, however, if there are any male Browns alive today who "trace back" to William Brown "II" and his father William Brown "I." If there are any such male Browns, I wish that one of them would join the DNA testing project.

Note: The date of the marriage between William Brown "II" and Miss Cloutson/Clouson is not really known. There is a book in the Essex Co., VA courthouse that has some "implied marriage dates," but those dates are largely "educated guesses," at best, and they must be taken with a major "grain of salt."

There is a record where Mrs. Mary (Brown) Landrum refers to the living wife of her father William Brown "I" as her "mother-in-law" Mary Brown. That appears to have meant "step-mother" in "today's terminology." After a lot of research by several people, it seems that the first wife of William Brown "I" was an Unknown Unknown. The second wife was definitely Elizabeth Allen, a daughter of Valentine Allen and Mary Page and the third and final wife was the above-mentioned Mary Unknown.

There was a man named Francis Brown "II" (son of Francis Brown "I" who died about 1691/1692 in Esex Co., VA) who left his will in Essex Co., VA in 1708/1709. Francis Brown "II" was also married to an Elizabeth Allen. Some records claim that she was the true daughter of Valentine Allen and Mary Page, but that seems to be totally "bogus." It is likely, however, that the father of this "other" Elizabeth Allen was PROBABLY a close relative of Valentine Allen and his daughter Elizabeth Allen. At present (per a lot of research), however, it seems doubtful that Francis Brown "II" and William Brown "I" were "blood relatives," despite both men marrying into the Allen family. We have many living male Brown DNA donors who are out of the overall Brown family of Francis Brown "II," but unfortunately, there does not appear to be any such DNA donors who "trace back" to the family of William Brown "I" and his son William Brown "II."

Per another researcher, William Brown "I" is refered to in some records as "William Brown, the Younger." As such, there was an older William Brown in the Old Rappahanock/Essex Co., VA area (who may or may not have been a member of that same overall Brown family).

The William Brown who was in Spotsylvania Co., VA, and who was "associated" with John Landrum there in the 1720s, COULD have been the above William Brown "II," or perhaps more likely, he COULD have been a son who we can call William Brown "III." Of course, that William Brown in Spotsylvania could also have been from some other/unrelated Brown family all together....but I would hate to have to bet on that.

Some clues SUGGEST to me that the William Brown who was in Spotsylvania in the 1720s MAY have been the same William Brown who was in Caroline Co., VA by the mid-1730s....and then in Amelia/Prince Edward Co., VA (PECo) by the 1740s. Per a DNA test on an apparent descendant of the William Brown in Amelia/PECo, that William Brown was a member of DNA "Family 69" (and the above-referenced Francis Brown "II," who married that "other" Elizabeth Allen, was a member of the unrelated DNA "Group 10"). There are some other clues, however, that suggest that these two Brown families MAY have intermarried. Unfortunately, all we seem to have for most of these issues at this point in time are "clues" versus "proof."

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