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Keltner - Ford- Magill-Bankston-Susank
Posted by: Vince Heiker (ID *****2590) Date: June 01, 2004 at 13:43:04
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I am writing a book to be titled "Trading with Keltner Channels". As part of this I want to know as much as possible about the creator of Keltner Channels. His name was Chester W. Keltner and he lived in Kansas most, perhaps all, of his life. He became a very famous commodities trader.

Have a couple questions about some names and dates that you may be able to help me with.

His wife was Grace Eleanor Magill, born in 1910, died in 1942. There is a person buried in Hosington City Cemetery named Hazel Magill, 5-14-09 to 1-1-2001. My guess is, his wife's sister. But the only Magill there.

Also buried there is a Katie A. Keltner.

Now, Chester Keltner's father was Cecil Lamonta Keltner and he is buried there. But....

- Chester's mother was Catherine or Katherine Lucretia Ford Keltner. The LDS records show her birth as 7-4-1887 and her death as 3-28-1957.

- Online cemetery show Katie A. Keltner born 7-4-1888 and died 3-24-1957.

- Are these the same person? If so, which dates are correct? And why the difference in middle initials?

There are some other Keltners buried there:

- Ensign Morris H. Keltner, 1914-1944. Must have been a WWII casualty? Maybe Chester's cousin?
- Harold E. Keltner, 12-22-1917 to 10-3-2003. A cousin?
- Marvin Keltner, 3-18-1916 to 8-19-1996. A cousin?

Perhaps you might be able to clarify above. Also, perhaps you can help me find out more about Chester Keltner - schooling, any living friends or relatives, etc.? Following is what I have been able to find thus far:

- Birth date - December 7, 1909
- Death - November 10, 1998

- Mother - Katherine or Catherine Lucretia Ford - just now finding some info about her - not much seems to be available - born 7-4-1887 Hoisington Barton KS, died 3-28-1957.

- Father - Cecil Lamonta Keltner - just now finding some info about him - also not much available. His father was Henry Morgan Keltner - wonder if that name Henry Morgan had some relationship to anything influencing Chester to become a trader? His mother was Hettie Ann Bankston. He married Catherine Lucretia Ford on 1-27-1909 in Hoisington, Barton, Kansas. Cecil was born on 9-1-1887, Carrollton MO, died 12-12-1966.

In 1930 Chester Keltner's occupation was store salesman then shortly later, maybe a railroad machinist. Would be interesting to find out how he got from that into trading grains commodities...might be related to his being hired by Ralph Ainsworth in 1934.

A distant relative of Keltner's wife discovered for me that in 1930 he was renting a room at 315 East Fourth, Hoisington Township, Barton County, Kansas from Adolph and Gladys Susank. Adolph was a railroad machinist. Chester Keltner was identified as a store salesman and single, with no military service to that point - this information from the 1930 US Census records. In a later document, Keltner is also identified as a railroad machinist, but that might or might not be confusion with the owner of the rooming house. Or perhaps that owner got Keltner a job after the 1930 census, as a railroad machinist.

Keltner's wife was Grace Eleanor Magill. She was born in 1910 in Atchison Kansas and she died in 1942. I wonder if she died in an accident or in a WWII related matter or of some disease or was murdered or ???. That is about the time that Chester Keltner started his commodities newsletter.

He and she were married on August 24, 1932, in Barton County, Kansas. That marriage might have some bearing on his being hired by Ralph Ainsworth - he worked for Ralph Ainsworth in 1934 until 1938.

Keltner's last address was 66712 Shawnee Mission, Johnson County, Kansas, in the greater Kansas City area.

His social security number was 344-30-9903.

I can find no record of any living relatives - no children, no subsequent marriages. It is odd that Mr. Keltner appears to have not remarried, and lived singly from 1942 through 1998. Might have been a lot of sadness there?

It appears that searching for relatives is not going to get far, so I need to find his friends, neighbors, customers, traders who knew him, maybe someone connected with the commodities exchanges, etc.

Strange how someone as famous and successful as he apparently was, left so few traces, and has no close living relatives....and its strange that his memory is bound up with a trading indicator named Keltner Channels, against his apparent wishes.

Wonder what he did during WWII and if not in the service, as seemed to be the case, why that was? He was only 32 then, older than the draft, but what did he do during those years besides publish a commodities newsletter?

Have a feeling of great sadness about him...which makes me even more determined to find out more about him.

Any help that you might be able to provide, is most appreciated. Thank you.

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