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Looking for any and all information on this family.
Thanks, Ann G
levitaann@yahoo.com
1840 SC Census
Hugh <b>G</b> Skipper County: Charleston State: South Carolina Roll: 509; Page: 165. -
Email to Ann 2007
I saw your message on Genealogy.com entitled “1800 Skippers” and have a question about the 1840 Charleston census entry. You said Hugh was your ancestor, and since he is mine as well, I’m hoping we can share information. There’s much I don’t know.
Hugh Skipper and his wife Mary (Norwood) are my ggg grandparents. My gg grandmother, Elizabeth (Kirk) Skipper, was born in 1840 in McClellanville, Charleston District. The family story is that she was Catawba Indian.
The 1840 census shows Hugh Skipper and Mary (Norwood) with one daughter under five, although I understand there were other daughters, including Caroline Skipper. Hugh does not seem to be listed in later census records.
Elizabeth married William Henry Suder in 1859. He was killed in a train explosion in 1863 and she was killed in an explosion at the depot in 1865. Her sons went to stay with her sister Caroline, but she sent them to an orphanage.
That’s about all I know about them. Any information would be a big help. Thanks Bill Draper <bill.draper@comcast.net>
Wow. Thanks, Ann.
For Hugh and Mary I have the same dates as you, based on the 1830 and 1840 census records. If these records are to be believed, Hugh was born in 1810 and Mary Norwood between 1810 and 1820. The slim supply of any other records for Skippers in the area is frustrating.
Hugh’s grandson wrote that his mother had “sisters” but never names more than one in his writings. Family stories say one of Hugh’s daughters married a Skinner. The daughter in the 1840 census I believe was Caroline. Elizabeth and the other daughters were born in the 1840s.
Family stories say Elizabeth and her sisters were raised on a plantation and were teenagers before they ever had to put on their own shoes. There were slaves for that. But a look at slave schedules shows no mention of any Skipper in the area owning slaves between 1850 and 1860, except Isaac and he doesn’t list girls in his household in 1850.
My only guess is that Hugh died in the 1840s and Mary remarried a planter, or maybe some of the old family stories are fanciful. I found one of Elizabeth’s sons in the Charleston Orphan House in the 1870 census, and in the House at the same time were Anna Skipper (1856) and Eva Skipper (1862), both born in South Carolina. I don’t know how they relate if at all – I haven’t found their registry information.
Questions: 1. Do you descend from Hugh? 2. Which information links Hugh Skipper to Isaac Skipper? 3. Which document shows Hugh’s middle name to be Gilbert? 4. Do you have the name and email address of the person who said the McClellanville Skippers were part of the Wilmington, NC Skippers? This information is very important to me being able to explain and research further. I attached a photo of Elizabeth Kirk Skipper Suder (b. 1840). I’ll have some more information to send you soon. Thank you for your help. Bill Draper <bill.draper@comcast.net>
Please don’t think I was questioning your research – it’s just that those particular facts are important to me. I’m still confused.
I just want to be sure: You are saying the Hugh Gilbert Skipper in your line is my Hugh G. Skipper? So Thomas is a brother to Elizabeth?
Sorry the photo is so fuzzy. No telling how many times it’s been duplicated. Back in the day when I would think most would try to hide their Indian heritage, Lizzy is wearing earrings made of features.
I’m 53 and I’ve been doing this for 5 years. Living in Atlanta and being handicapped has made it hard to get to Charleston to do research. These are my last grandparents to research. My mother wanted this completed while she was still here. When she’s gone, there’s nobody left who remembers the stories.
Thanks for the information. Bill
SO now I understand:
Your Hugh is not the Hugh in the 1840 Census because he had at least four children by then and the 1840 census only shows one. So the 1840 Hugh has to be mine. It’s strange there was more than one Hugh Skipper the same age – and that the older Hugh married someone possibly named Mary Norwood, like my younger Hugh. This one can’t be mine either since the 1840 Hugh was born around 1810.
This is very strange. If I didn’t have family records, I couldn’t begin to guess who Lizzy’s parents were.
Lizzy was killed in the explosion of the Wilmington Depot the morning Charleston was evacuated by the Confederate army – February 18, 1865. Her husband, William Henry Suder, was killed a few days later when the locomotive he was engineering exploded. He was transporting soldiers north from Charleston.
A year later, Willie and John Suder were sent to the Charleston Orphan House. John was adopted while still young (before 1870) and Willie ran away in 1877 to find him. He walked the tracks toward Columbia where he knew John to be, and stopped at the station in Summerville. A passing engineer spoke to him and recognized his father’s name, so he gave Willie a lift to Columbia. There he found Suder relatives and his brother John.
John moved to Conn. and raised a family, while Willie found a wife in Dutch Fork and moved to Sumter where other Suders lived.
If this Hugh Skipper lived on an indigo and rice plantation like the stories say, I’ll put this together one day. Thanks for all the information! I’ll keep in touch for sure.
Bill Draper
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