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Hello Fellow Kipp's and Kipp researchers. Below is a current update on the Kipp DNA study that started last year by Edward Kipp of our Canadian Branch ************************************************************************************************ News - Kipp DNA study We welcome all Kipp/Kip descendants (in the male line) to join the study to test the Y-chromosome to help define the Kipp/Kip families located around the world. One of the goals of the study was to determine how many founder Kip/Kipp families there are in the world. Thus far we have two distinct lines belonging to the haplogroups I and R in subclades I1b1 (I1b is now I1b1 by the International Society of Genetic Genealogy) and R1b1c . A second goal of the study was to bring together the various branches of the Kip family that first settled at New Amsterdam (now New York City) in 1635. Three of the members of the Kipp DNA study have matched exactly on 12 markers. At 37 markers two members have matched 35/37. Mutations have appeared in the two fast moving markers CDYa and CDYb (red on the chart). Mutations in these two markers are quite common in family studies and often assist in separating descendant lines. One member of the study has a paper trail back to Hendrick Hendricksen Kip (b c 1600) and he is a descendant Hendrick's son Isaac Hendrickson Kip (b 10 Jan 1627). The two members who match 35/37 are at a minimum 7th cousins and to see the closeness of the match is quite intriguing. Haplogroups in Study I1b1 is thought to have spent the Last Glacial Maximum (LGM) in the Balkan States and is mostly found in this area and Eastern Europe. Arriving in the mid 1700s to Pennsylvania were three Kipp families who emigrated from Rotterdam, The Netherlands (Michael Kipp, Johan Henrich Kipp and Johannes Kipp). There is a Michael Kip baptized 07 Jul 1729 - Daseburg, Westfalen, Preussen (Michael Kipp emigrated 13 Oct 1749 from Rotterdam). There are a number of Johannes Kipp families in Germany in this time period (found in Baden, Hessen and Wurttemburg). More people testing in this line would assist in learning about this haplogroup line. R1b1c is thought to have spent the LGM in Iberia (located in the border area of Spain and France) and is found particularly in Spain, France, the British Isles and other parts of western Europe. One member has traced his ancestry back to the de Kype (Kip) emigrant family of New Amsterdam (originally Alençon France) and the other two members have not yet found a paper trail that links them to the emigrant Hendrick Hendricksen Kype (although their DNA results place them in this grouping). Family studies that become sufficiently large are often able to separate different descending lines and in this case Hendrick Hendricksen Kip had three sons. Two of the members have tested to 37 markers and the two "fast moving" markers CDYa and CDYb both show differences Kit N18407 CDYa/CDYb = 36/39 and Kit 109884 CDYa/CDYb = 37/38. Kit 109884 is a descendant of Isaac Hendricksen Kip. The ancestor of Isaac Kipp (b 1764) is not known at this time but Isaac Hendricksen Kip had six sons and the descendants of four of these sons have been traced to varying degrees - the change could have occurred within these lines or it could be a change between the three sons of Hendrick Hendricksen Kip or later down the line. More members of the family testing could help to develop familial patterns for this family. Family tree for Hendrick Hendricksen Kype (Kip) found at : http://ca.geocities.com/ekipp@rogers.com/kipfam.htm and select about half way down the webpage - Descendants of Hendrick Hendricksen Kip in America; 9 Generations. Edward Kipp Notify Administrator about this message?
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