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I´m searching the history about the Liebel family (my wife was born Liebel) and have noticed that the Liebel coat of arms have exactly the same structure as Kinzlers. The same shield, crest and elephant trunks, but other colours and central motive. Obviously they have the same designer. The highest concentration of Liebels are in the region of Rheinland-Phalz - very close to Baden-Württemberg. Do anyone know anything about what century the Kinzler coat of arms was registred?/I.O.,Sweden
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