Re: Kidd coat of arms
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Kidd coat of arms
Von Kidd 8/07/05
I have come across the Kidd Coat of Arms on
http://www.houseofnames.com/xq/asp/s.Kidd/Origin.SC/qx/CoatOfArms_details.htmhttp://www.houseofnames.com/xq/asp/s.Kidd/Origin.SC/qx/CoatOfArms_details.htm
In Scotland, Kidd and Hardy are Septs of the Ferguson Clan and the Coats of Arms are quite similar. My theory is that a Kidd married into the Ferguson Clan (c.1300) and then designed his own Coat of Arms, pledging family allegiance to the Ferguson Chief in times of hostility (see also royal-christian inferences below between our Celtic and Anglo-Saxon origins). Can you tell me the name of individual who was the earliest holder of the Kidd Coat of Arms (Scotland)? And the current inheritor of that title, if it is the case? To my knowledge the earliest known recorded Kid/Kidd/ Kyd/Kydd (1357)was from the Dundee area.
Like you, my father always told me our Kidds originated from Scotland - the earliest I have is James Kidd (source of Berkshire Kidds)who was married to Margarett (their son,John, was born 'out-of-county'according to the 1841 census); and the only marriage of a James Kidd to a Margarett I have found, is Margarett Hutton (1772,South Leith,Lothian,Scotland).
I have recently participated in Y-DNA studies through FamilyTreeDNA.com and tentative genetic matches have been with families in the Borders area (Beatties, Burns, Dixons)and Ireland - Border Reivers families were relocated (to take over Catholic lands) by protestant Kings in the 17th Century, partly because those families were rebellious and difficult to govern by either English or Scottish rule. Celtic-Briton Y-DNA is widespread and earlier(5th Century)migrations had been from Ireland to Scotland(Dalriada).
The 1881 Kidd surname distribution map is bimodal (mainly Angus/Aberdeenshire and Yorkshire) showing the Borders area to have been depopulated of Kidds (IGI shows many Kide/Keid/Kede/Keed(e)/Kead(e)/Ked(d)variants since 1530 in the Roxburgh-Berwick Borders area; note the Scottish dialect coming through in these variants). The second source of Kidds is from East Anglia/Cambridgeshire, where Thomas Kidd of Soham was born(generally thought pedigree of all early American Kidds). Later American/Canadian Kidds may have their provenance in Ireland following later immigration. The Norfolk source relates to Anglo-Saxon settlement of England viz.Kedington translates to tun='farmstead' of ingas='the people of' 'Cedd, Cedda, Cidd, Cidda, Cyda, Cydda, Cyddi'. Anglo-Saxons used to apply alliteration to name children of the same family - Kedington is only 20 miles from Soham,Cambridgeshire. It seems they lacked a 'K' in their alphabet.
My theory is that the soft 'C' was replaced by hard 'K' of the Celtic-Briton language (even present-day pronunciation of soft 'C' in Celtic was itself originally pronounced with a hard 'K' sound).
My conclusion has been that the surname Kid/Kidd/Kyd/Kydd is of Hiberno-Saxon origin.
The first Roman Christian missionary to England was Bishop Augustine (Kent,597); the second wave included Bishop Cedd (c.620-664)and his younger brother, Bishop Chad (both from Northumbria and trained at Lindisfarne under St Aidan from 634, of Celtic Christian origin). Bishop Cedd died of plague in 664, the same year as the Synod of Whitby whereupon English Christianity realigned with its Roman version under Bishop Cuthbert (born Melrose). Note that the ministry of Cedd and Cuthbert would have included the Melrose-Kelso-Lindisfarne area (and Cuthbert,Aidan and Colman are all Scottish surnames). Bishop Cedd founded(654)the church of St Mary's, Lastingham, Yorkshire, and that same year was invited by King Sigeberht II (The Good) of Wessex as missionary to Essex to reconvert Saxons (possibly with the Celtic version). My opinion is that 'Cyddington' became Kydington/Kedington at this time (the gene pool may have originally been predominantly Celtic-Briton with Angle overlords)and people then from Kedington were called Kyd/Kid/Kydd/Kidd. Likewise, a Celtic-Briton family/community in the Borders area was converted to Celtic Christianity by Cedd and they underwent 'family-baptism', developing the surname Cedd (cf Cuthbert,Aidan). Subsequent migration of Kid/Kyd/Kidd/Kydd families enabled them to spread to Yorkshire/Lancashire/Staffordshire (Cedd and Chad were also missionaries throughout this area) and Lothian/Angus/Aberdeenshire (where they became affiliated to the Fergusons). NB Fergus mac Erc (c500)of Dalriada prepared the platform for the arrival of Columba at Iona, and Aidan (who taught Cedd)was his disciple - another tantalising link of Ferguson with Kidd.
The predominant genetic characteristics would be those of Celtic-Britons (R1b haplotype) but there is also the possibility of Germanic Frankish roots (I haplotype)from the Angle overlords of eastern England.
Also surname variants (eg Keed/Kede)are likely to have been highly influenced by local dialect.
It has been suggested in literature that the variant 'Kit' was also in usage and may derive as the petname of Christopher, with further Christian connotations (St Christopher c250AD)
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