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Re: Walsh/McGrath & Walsh/Minogue....
Posted by: Kim Reynolds (ID *****3088) Date: June 20, 2012 at 01:37:23
In Reply to: Walsh/McGrath & Walsh/Minogue.... by Rod Haynor of 94936

Rod,I went poking about in the census records and found the following.The only thing is I cannot find any Samuel Walsh/Welch married to a Rose.

1875 NY State census:
Granville,NY

Samuel Welsh age 45 born Ireland
Bridget Welsh age 45 born Ireland
Maggie Welsh age 21 born Washington co,NY
Sarah Welsh age 17 born Washington co,NY
Mary Welsh age 15 born Washington co,NY
Bridget Welsh age 13 born Washington co,NY
Rosa Welsh age 11 born Washington co,NY
Michael Welsh age 9 born Washington co,NY

there is also another Welsh family a few doors away.
Patrick Welsh age 35 born Ireland
Ann Welsh age 28 born Canada
Mary Welsh age 11 born Washington co,NY
Annie Welsh age 9 born Washington co,NY
Eliza Welsh age 7 born Washington co,NY
Alice Welsh age 5 born Washington co,NY
Dennis Sullivan age 30 born Ireland
June Sullivan age 25 born Ireland
Maggie Sullivan age 2 born Washington co,NY

1880 US census:Granville,NY

Samuel Welsh age 50,born 1830 Ire.,Parents born Ire.,married,works on farm
Bridget Welsh age 50,born 1830 Ire.,parents born Ire.,married,keeps house
Magrett Welsh age 27,born 1853 NY,single,keeps house
Samuel Welsh age 22,born 1858 NY,single,works on farm
Mary Welsh age 19,born 1861 NY,single,keeps house
Bridget Welsh age 18,born 1862 NY,single,keeps house
Rosa Welsh age 16,born 1864 NY,single,keeps house
Mike Welsh age 14,born 1866 NY,single

again Patrick Welsh appears a couple of doors down;
Patrick Welsh age 42
Ann Welsh age 37
Mary J Welsh age 16
Anna T Welsh age 13
Eliza Welsh age 12
Alice Welsh age 10
John J Welsh age 2

1892 New York State census:Saratoga

Samuel Welch age 34,born US,railroad worker
Bridget Welch age 30,born Ire.,
Catherine Welch age 9,born US
Michael Dalton age 38,born Ire.,labourer

Samuel Welch age 62,born Ireland
Michael Welch age 26,born US,car inspector
Mary Welch age 28,born US
Ann Welch age 3,born US
Albert Welch age 1,born US

also a couple of doors away is another Welch family;
David Welch age 42,born US,railroad worker
Ellen Welch age 32,born US
Samuel Welch age 11?,born US
Thomas Welch age 10,born US
David Welch age 4,born US
Ellen Welch age 2,born US

Bridget Welsh must have died between 1880-1892

Michael Welsh married Mary McGrath between 1880-1892(probably around 1888)

you may want to try to find Samuel Welsh naturalization cert as in the 1892 state census he says he's a US citizen.

1880 US census:Castleton,Rutland,Vermont

Patrick McGrath age 40,born 1840 Ire.,parents born Ire.,married,labourer
Maria McGrath age 40,born 1840 Ire.,parents born Ire.,married,keeps house
Thomas McGrath age 18,born 1862 Vermont,son,labourer
Mary E McGrath age 14,born 1866 Vermont,daughter,at school
John McGrath age 10,born 1870 Vermont,son,at school
Julia A McGrath age 7,born 1873 Vermont,daughter,at school
Hannah McGrath age 4,born 1876 Vermont,daughter

also on same page a few doors down;
Patrick F McGrath age 57,born 1823,Ire.,parents born Ire.,married,labourer
Mary McGrath age 54,born 1826 Ire.,parents born Ire.,married,keeps house

marriage:
Patrick William McGrath
residence:Castleton,Vt
born 1837 age 22
Maria Maher
born 1835 age 24
married:27 November 1859
place:Castleton,Vt

I also found this;

death:
Patrick McGrath
Castleton,Vt
born Ireland 1842
died March 9,1900
father Richard
mother B

I do think that perhaps the Patrick found in Castleton may be Patrick's father but its hard to know as this death record appears to be Mary's father Patrick.What I would do before approaching Irish records is to try to get the Vital records(birth,death,marriage)of all this people as they may have revealing info on them including the ones for the people living a few doors down.Hope this helps,Kim


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