Re: Martin Dwyer Tipperary Australian convict on Westmorland
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Martin Dwyer Tipperary Australian convict on Westmorland
Shirley Dwyer 2/24/09
I research the Irish Family History Foundation's database. It contains 12,000,000 surviving rcds for abt 65% of Irish counties. Rcds are increasingly sparse B4 1840, rare B4 1800.
Note 1 - Without a KNOWN parish, the chance of an ancestor's rcds NOT being in this database is AT LEAST 35%.
Note 2 - Only 1/2 of Co. Cork's rcds are in this database.
Note 3 - The RC church kept control over most parish rcds from Tipperary (north). These are ONLY available thru the Tipperary Family History Research center at a substantial fee (regardless of outcome).
1) Yours is a tough one. 1st, there are NO Birth or Marriage rcds for the surname KIRKWIN in the database. This suggests that you have the wrong surname. There are rcds for Kirwin and Kirk. Kirwin seems the more likely.
2) You don't have estimates of either a DOB, or DOM. This forced me to use a statistical approach.
3) I believed that convict transportation to AUS ended in the 1840s. This means all of the dates have to be prior to 1850. The pre-1850 Irish rcds aren't that good. By 1800, only abt 5% of all B/M/D events were being rcd'd. Even these were mostly in the urban areas.
For Martin Dwyer B ???? somewhere in Ireland with the father forenamed John, I found 6 rcds within a relevant range: 1782 Kilkenny, 1794 Kilkenny, 1804 Kilkenny, 1831 Tipperary, 1834 Kilkenny, and 1836 Tipperary.
For Ann Kirwin M ???? somewhere in Ireland, I found 8 rcds: 1804 GAL, 1828 KID, 1829 KID, 1835 LOU, 1837 DUB, 1845 KID, 1846 TIP, and 1847 GAL.
For Martin Dwyer M ditto, I foundrcds: 1779 KIL, 1786 KIL, 1819 CRK, 1820 KIL, 1821 TIP, 1824 TIP, 1824 KIL, 1825 LIM, 1829 KIL, 1829 TIP, 1836 TIP, 1836 LIM, 1840 TIP, 1843 LIM, 1846 CRK, 1848 LIM, and 1849 TIP. As you can see, there are NO corresponding rcds for Ann Kirwin.
It looks like the B/M event rcds didn't survive, or haven't been digitized yet. Suggest you wait until the database is more complete.
Google the Foundation's name to lead you to this database. Register, opt to be notified as rcds are added and browse. Pls post your search results to my genforum msg.
Hope this helps. Good luck.
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Re: Martin Dwyer Tipperary Australian convict on Westmorland
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