For Pat(rick) McGuinness B 1877 +/- 2 yrs, Co. Armagh, with a father forenamed Pat(rick), I found 2 rcds, 1877, 1-church (Upper Kileavy RC), and 1-civil (Meigh).
For Mich(ael) McGuiness B 1820 ditto, with a father forenamed Mic(hael), I found 0 rcds.
For the forenames Michael, Patrick, Owen, Peter, Thomas, etc, these are commonly used in nearly every Irish family with the exception of protestants.
Hope this helps. Good luck.
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