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Re: James Ling
Posted by: David Boylan (ID *****3424) Date: December 20, 2006 at 14:16:08
In Reply to: James Ling by pete griffin of 551

Hello Pete,

There is a Griffiths Valuation listing for James Ling as an occupier of property located on Sleaty Street in Graigue, civil parish of Killeshin, Queeens County.

Griffiths Valuation was a property tax record enumerated in the 32 counties of Ireland between 1847 and 1864. The valuation for Queens County took place between 1858 and 1860.

Family members are not listed a Griffiths Valuation record. The name of the occupier and the name of the person who leased the property to the occupier (known as the "Lessor") are the names listed in a Griffiths Valuation record.

I found the listing for James Ling in Griffiths Valuation at a subscription website called

The valuation for James took place a little later than the time period you are interested in, but it does show that James was still living in Graigue at least six years after 1852.

The text version of the Griffiths Valuation record for James Ling follows:

No. and Letters of Reference to Map: 58
Occupier: James Ling
Lessor: James Bigley, Senior
Townland: GRAIGUE
Street: Sleaty Street
Description of Tenement: House and Yard
Contents of Land: 0
Net Annual Value of Land: 0
Net Annual Value of Buildings: 1 Pound, 10 Shillings
Total Annual Value of Rateable Property: 1 Pound, 10 Shillings

The GRiffiths Valuation record shows that James Ling had leased a house and yard from the lessor named Jame Bigley Sr. on Sleaty Street. The yard would have been small as it had no appreciable value. The absence of land with the property indicates that James may have been a merchant or had been a member of some profession or trade, rather than having been occupied as a farmer.

The value of the house James leased from James Bigley, Sr., was 1 Pound and 10 Shillings, which was also the total valuation of the property.

The map number at the beginning of the record, Map No. 58, refers to an Ordnance Survey Map showing where James's property was located on Sleaty Street.

Concerning other records, if James had belonged to a Protestant denomination, there may be a civil record of marriage for him, provided he married after 1844. Civil registration in Ireland began with the recording of Protestant marriages in April of 1845. Civil registration of births, marriages and deaths for all religious denominations did not occur in Ireland until 1864, however.

This means if James had any children prior to 1864, there would be no birth records for them, and if he belonged to the Catholic Church, there would be no marriage record for him unless he had married after 1863.

Church registers of baptism, marriages, and deaths would be the sources you would initially search for James and his family.

According to a book by Brian Mitchell called "A Guide To Irish Parish Registers," the Church of Ireland that served parishioners living in Killeshin civil parish, has registers starting in 1824. Mitchell's book also shows the Catholic Church, located in Graigue, has registers that commence in 1819.

Neither the Church of Ireland or Catholic Church registers have been filmed by the Latter Day Saints. This means you will have to write to the parish priest for James's denomination and ask that a search of the registers be undertaken to locate his baptism and his marriage records.

Contact information for the Church of Ireland priest, the Rev. Byrne, is below:

The Rev. Roy Byrne, Incumbent
The Rectory,
Co Carlow,

Contact information for the Catholic priest, the Rev. John Dunphy, can be found at the following link:

A word about writing to Catholic parish priests: In the last few years many priests across Ireland will no longer search parish registers for family historians. The reasons for this are the priests have been inundated with such requests, which further takes them away from administering to their parishioners.

I would normally suggest that you contact the Carlow Heritage Project, which had been the heritage center for Laois and Carlow. But, information found at the Irish Times genealogical website shows this center has closed. The other place that would have access to the Graigue Catholic registers, is the National Library of Ireland on Kildare Street, Dublin. But you would either have to visit the library in person to search the registers, as the library staff won't do the research for you, or hire a genealogist to do the research for you.

If you write to Father Dunphy, explain that the heritage center that had data base copies of the Catholic registers, is closed.

See the following Irish Times link:

And to see what years for baptisms and marriages are specifically covered by the Catholic registers, go to this Irish Times link:

The town of Graigue, though in Queens County, was a suburb of Carlow Town. Graigue is on the border of Queens County and County Carlow. To read a description of Graigue from the 1837 edition of Lewis's Topographical Dictionary, go to:

And to read a description of the civil parish of Killeshin, go to:

Best of Luck Pete,

Dave Boylan

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