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Re: Immels' Waldhambach, Bavaria
Posted by: Jennifer Kemnitz Date: December 28, 2000 at 12:38:30
In Reply to: Re: Immels' Waldhambach, Bavaria by Cindy Goldsworthy of 128

Hi, sorry about the delay. Christmas, you know.
Yes, let's exchange! I don't have anything more about Nikolaus' line, just that he was born in 1814.
What I have starts with Bernhardus Peter Immel, b. 1695 in Sulz, Pfalz, Germ. and d.9/20/1743 in same. He was a carpenter and married twice, first to Margaretha Elisabeth, but they had no children. He remarried, to Maria Ottilia Schnetzer (daughter of Matthaus and Ottilia, and b. 1705 in Bindersbach, Pfalz) on 9/23/1732 in Gossersweiller, Pfalz. Their 2 surviving children were Anna Elisabetha (b.9/2/1733) and Johannes Michael Immel (our ancestor, of course, b.4/6/1737 in Sulz, Pfalz. I have no death date for him.)
Johannes Michael was a baker and teacher and married twice, first to Sybilla Schaub on 1/31/1763, producing a son, Johann Adam (not our direct ancestor). His second marriage was on 2/4/1766 in Erlenbach to Anna Maria Schlosser (dau of Sebastian Siegbert Schlosser and Eva Dopler/Dobler; b.after 1743 in Erlenbach, Pfalz). They had 9 surviving children: Wendelin (b.12/5/1766, d.8/10/1834); Maria Catherina (b.1/17/1769); Maria Margarethe (b.1/13/1771); Magdalena (b.8/8/1772, d.8/21/1821); Johann Stephan (b.9/26/1774); Ottilia (b.2/19/1776); Appolonia (b.1777, d.1/21/1847); Johannes (b.10/8/1779); and Johannes Christian, our ancestor, who was born in 1781 in Erlenbach, Germersheim, Pfalz and died (date?) in Landau, Russia.
In case you don't have some of this, Johannes Christian was Beresan District Mayor in Landau, Russia from 1825 to 1834 and, according to the book by Conrad Keller, "The German Colonies in South Russia 1804-1904, vol. 2", he was "an intelligent, energetic man, but was sometimes too strict. Johannes lived to quite an old age; near the end he suffered considerably from rheumatism and gout". I don't have the date on which he settled in Russia, but he was there by at least 1813, when he married Katharina Magdalena Helbling (dau of Joannes Baptista Helbling and Maria Barbara Walther; b.1784 in Wingen, Weissenberg, Alsace, d. Landau) in Landau. They had 6 children: your Nikolaus (b.1814); Christian (b.1816, d.1/13/1871); Margaretha (b.1817); my Kaspar/Casparus (b. 1/16/1820); Josef (b.1822, d.9/14/1870); and Elisabeth (b.1826).
I would be interested in knowing what happened to Nikolaus' line and for any of his other siblings besides Kaspar. I have Kaspar's line if you are interested. Thanks in advance!

--Jennifer


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