Re: What's the Evidence That the Two Marthas Were One?
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Re: What's the Evidence That the Two Marthas Were One?
Jerry Parker 11/28/08
Jerry,
No fires in the immediate vicinity, but the one in Montecito affected several friends of mine.
<< Never considered the possiblity of individuals providing information as you have said. The concept is almost shocking. >>
In 1649, the Plymouth Colony General Court ordered that parents, people getting married, and heads of families in which someone died report births, marriages, and deaths to the town clerk or pay a fine of three shillings.It's certainly true that a clerk sometimes transcribed records from an old book to a new one (as from the Rehoboth town-meetings book to a vital records volume, about 1669), but that begs the question of the older records' ultimate origin.
The Silas C. Ide volume is _The Pennsylvania Branch of the Ide Family: Ancestors and Descendants of Nehemiah and Ezra Ide_ (n.p., 1940).
<< (Doesn't it seem strange that Nicholas did not name a son Thomas after his father-in-law?) >>
In that "son-in-law" (as Bliss calls Nicholas in his will) was frequently used at this time to mean "stepson," and if for the sake of argument we accept that Bliss was not Ide's father-in-law in the modern sense but rather his stepfather, I don't consider it curious that Nicholas failed to name a son in memory of a man whom his widowed mother had married when Nicholas had either reached or was approaching adulthood.
<< If you can think of another way Nicholas could be Thomas Bliss' son-in-law without being either adopted or married to his daughter, let me know. >>
Although I'm inclined to think that Ide was Bliss's son-in-Iaw (and that Martha Ide's parentage is unknown), there's no reason to think that adoption was involved.As above, Nicholas was too old for that.Plus, I'm not aware that formal adoption proceedings existed in Plymouth Colony at this time.If Nicholas had been adopted, Bliss almost certainly would have left him a full, child's share of his estate; he didn't.Nicholas petitioned for it, but there's no indication that he did so in the right of his wife (of whom there's no hint in Bliss's will).
Gene
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