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Re: Hyland family in Whalen-O'Faolain yDNA Project
Posted by: f j (ID *****9191) Date: December 02, 2011 at 03:32:20
In Reply to: Re: Hyland family in Whalen-O'Faolain yDNA Project by William Hyland of 578

Hello William,

Itís not for me or anyone else to say Hyland is or is not genetically connected/related to the Whelan/Phelan etc...

Iíve seen a few origins for the surname Hyland;

From the Irish Times Surname search; (http://www.irishtime...cestor/surname/)
Numerous: all areas, particularly S Midlands. Ir. ” h-AolŠin; originally ” FaolŠin, (Whelan). The name occurs in England as Hayland and this may the origin of some of those in Ulster. SI.
SI; "MacLysaght, Edward, Surnames of Ireland, Dublin, 1985"

From a Hyland website; (http://web.archive.o...ogy/Hyland.html)
The name Hyland comes from the Irish name O hAoileŠin, which is usually a form of O FaolŠin, from the Irish word faol, meaning wolf. Other anglicisations of the same name are Whelan and Phelan.

There are certainly many Hylands in Ireland.


I have also seen that Hyland/Hayland can be English, but it is from a different origin, and might be those mentioned by MacLysaght as being in Ulster.

Last name: Hyland;
"This interesting and unusual name is of English origin and is topographical for someone who lived on a high patch of ground, deriving from the Old English pre 7th Century 'heg', and the Middle English development 'hegh' or 'hie', meaning high, and 'land', land. The following examples illustrate the name development after 1255 (see below): Wulford atte Heghelonde (1275, Hundred Rolls of Kent) and Thomas de Heyeland (1275, Hundred Rolls of Sussex) and in the modern idiom the variants include Hayland(s), Highland, Heyland and Hyland. Topographical names are some of the earliest names to be created, as topographical features, whether natural or manmade, provided obvious and convenient means of identification. In the sample records in London is the christening of one Isaack Hyland at Bull Lane Independant, Stepney, on August 24th 1667. The first recorded spelling of the family name is shown to be that of Nicholas de Haylaund, which was dated 1255, in the Assize Rolls of Somerset, during the reign of King Henry 111, known as 'The Frenchman', 1216-1272. Surnames became necessary when governments introduced personal taxation. In England this was known as Poll Tax. Throughout the centuries, surnames in every country have continued to "develop" often leading to astonishing variants of the original spelling."
(© Copyright: Name Origin Research www.surnamedb.com 1980 - 2011)



I welcome all surname variants, and if someone wants to join our Whelan/Phelan/Whalen group, fine, if not, then that is fine aswell.

Most surname groups do not have a single origin, the Whelan/Whalen/Phelan group certainly have 1/2 dozen different genetic origins. (Though we do have a LARGE group of Whelan/Phelan/Whalen men in "Whalen/Whelan/Phelan Group 01'.)

If a Hyland man test and feels he is not part of the Whelan/Phelan group, he can stay in the group, leave the group, and/or also join other groups, wait for more matches and explore what other matches he has. Is that such a bad thing.
I think most Hylands would like to see/know where they genetically match.

yDNA is a tool that we use to help in our genealogy. It cannot and will not tell you all the answers, but is very good in grouping people descended from a common ancestor.
So we can group men into different family groups, as part of a common surname or Clan.

Our website is; http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/whalen



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