Re: John Hyde's Bible
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In reply to:
John Hyde's Bible
James Hyde 10/27/02
This is what I found at The Old Buncombe Geneoalogical Society;
THE HYDES
by Jean Millsaps (as told by Millie Hyde Wilson)
Most of our first white settlers lived where the town of Robbinsville is now located, and in the surrounding valleys.The settlements called Cheoah Valley and Talulah Valley consisted mainly of a trading post, church, cemetery, grist mills, post office, and farms located along the Cheoah and surrounding valleys.The Post Office's name was changed to Fort Montgomery in 1849.
Chief Junaluska was granted 337 acres of land here in 1850 for his services to the United States, and his children played with the children of our early white settlers.In fact, the Chief and his family were friends with, and visited with the family of Johnny and Elizabeth (Poll) Beck Hyde.
Johnny Hyde was said to have been one of the first three white men to settle in the Cheoah Valley.It is said that when he moved here, over the "Trail of Tears" road, it took six men to hold the wagon in the rugged trail.
He said he was 53 years old in 1850, and owned 40 acres of land.He had 14 head of cattle, four sheep, 35 hogs, 60 bushels of rye, 400 bushels of corn, 200 lbs of potatoes, 100 lbs of butter, and 10 lbs of wool.(1850 Agriculture Schedule.)
In 1860, his son Jason owned 20 acres, and another son William owned 30 acres.
Johnny Hyde first settled near the mouth of Long Creek and later moved to the Fort Hill area.He lived on the road leading to the oldest cemetery in this country where white settlers are known to be buried.This graveyard, dating back to about 1840, is located just east of the Old Mother Church Cemetery, down in a hollow, inside the Fort Hill Housing Development.The 18 graves are marked only by rocks, with no names, but a monument was erected a few years ago listing the names of the people known to be buried there. Johnny Hyde's wife is one of them.
Johnny's son Jason, also lived near Fort Hill.Jason is said to have donated some of the land for the Old Cemetery.He was a teacher, and taught in the first church built in this county, which was also used for a school. This building was erected by Johnny Hyde, his son Jason, and others.
Mellie Wilson remembers her father showing her where the old spring was located, that served the older church before the Old Mother Church was built.
Johnny Hyde moved to the old Rube Rogers' farm when he sold his land at Robbinsville.He built a water mill there and that's how Hyde's Mill Creek got its name.
His wife died of phlebitis after their daughter, Juletta, was born.The ailment was called "milk leg" back then.She is buried in the old cemetery on Fort Hill.
After Polly's death, Johnny remarried and moved to Bushnell in Swain County.He was blind before he died at age 92.
Mellie told me the Hyde family history as follows:Four Hyde brothers came on a boat from Liverpool, England.Their names were John, Benjamin, William and Fidella (Albert).John settled in North Carolina, William in Ohio, and Fidella in New York.Thelma Phillips says this John was supposed to be the Graham County settler.
William and Fidella Hyde went back to England and accumulated great wealth.They started back to the United States to take their families back to England but drowned on the way.Mellie says that because the Hyde family in America couldn't prove the number of their boat, they could not claim their estates.
One of the original Lord Proprietors was Edward Hyde, Earl of Claredon (1609-1674).At this time the Carolinas extended as far as Florida and the South Seas.His grandson Edward Hyde, was first cousin to Queen Anne, then Queen of England.Edward Hyde became Governor of N.C. May 9, 1712, but contracted Yellow Fever and died a few months later.Tradition gives it that the name Edward has continued to be a favorite of the Hydes to the present day.The Hydes who migrated to the mountains of Western North Carolina are said to have descended from the family of Edward.
Mellie is the daughter of John Hyde and Josephine Davis Hyde.Her grandfather, David E. Hyde, was a son of the old settler.David married Margarette Crisp, sister of Joel L. Crisp.
John Brooks' wife, Frankie, and the McKeldreys are desc. from Johnny Hyde I through his son John Aaron, Will Sherrill is the son of Amanda, another dau. of John Aaron Hyde.
--ALOB, April 1982, Vol. III, #4, p. 82-50
John Hyde Bible
Page 1
John Hyde was born March 7th 1797
Poly Hyde was born feb the 1st 1802
B.A. Hyde was born Jan 20th 1820
Jamey Carioline Hyde was born June 8th 1822
Elizabeth Ann Hyde was born May the 12th 1824
John A. Hyde was born December the 6th 1826
J.S. Hyde was born July 30th 1829
Humpfary Posey Hyde was born March the 27th 1832
Page 2
D.E. Hyde was born June the 26th 1834
Wm. J. Hyde was born June the 4th 1837
Polley Juletty Hyde was born January the 13th 1840
Polley Hyde My wife died July 21st 1843
John Hyde and Elizabeth Cable was married August the 29th 1847
Elizabeth Hyde died May 7th 1863
Susannah Adaline Hyde was born May the 22nd 1848
Page 3
Samuel M. Hyde Born abt the 20th Feb 1851
Thomas Marian Hyde was born Apr the 2 tt 1854
Robert Collins Hyde was born dec the 3 1856
James Madison Hyde was born Aug the 22nd 1859
Sarah Matilda Hyde born March the 23 1862
John Hyde died March 25th 1892
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- submitted by Diane Varni, Watsonville, CA
located in the Family Files, OBCGS
Additonal papers in the Family Files shed additional information on this family, albeit some with question marks.They are files from Canadian County Genealogical Society, El Reno, OK.The sources given are (1) John Hyde's Bible(2)1860 Census, Cherokee Co., NC(3)1850 Census, Cherokee Co., NC. The Bible records copied by Ruth Doke Alexander and the Census researched by Foy Roberts.
The Family Group Sheets give this information:
Husband:John Hyde
Born 7 March 1797 NC, Burke County
Married:
Died:25 March 1892 Bushnell, NC
Husband's Father:Benjamin Hyde
Husband's Mother:Rebecca Leatherwood
Husband's Other wives:(2) Cable, Elizabeth
Buried:Luada Cemetery, Bryson City, NC
Wife:Polly Beck
Born:1 Feb 1802
Died:8 July 1843
Children:
male B.A. (Benjamin?) b. 20 Jan 1820
female Jamey Caroline b. 8 June 1822
female Elizabeth Ann (Peggy?) b. 12 May 1824
male John A. (Aaron?) b. 6 Dec. 1826
male J.S. (Jason?) b. 30 July 1829
male Humphry Posey b. 27 Mar. 1832
male D.E. (Dave?) b. 26 June 1834
male Wm. J. (Jace?) b. 4 June 1837
female Poley Julletty (Polly Julietta?) b. 13 Jan 1840
The second Family Group Sheet shows the same information for John Hyde (same handwriting)
Wife:Cable, Elizabeth
Born:1827? 1820? 1822? Carter Co., TN
Died:7 May 1863
Wife's father:Cable, Samuel A. -- Cades Cove before 1830
Wife's mother:Jones, Elizabeth
Note:Samuel son of Casper Cable 1775-1826/27 and Elizabeth Baker
Children's data essentially the same as Bible record but additionally:
Thomas Marion Hyde d. 31 Mar 1938; wife Chambers, E.
Eliza Ann
James Madison (Matt)
Sarah Matilda - never married
Source -ALOB, Nov 1997, p. 96 courtesy of Mary Martha Nieblas Brown
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