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Re: New web page HOWE Family
Posted by: Roger Miller (ID *****2298) Date: June 10, 2009 at 14:05:42
In Reply to: Re: New web page HOWE Family by Mary Williams of 5072

Hi Mary

Hope your e-mail address hasn't changed. I have been researching the Howe family genealogy back in Salt Lake City history center and have found guite a bit about William Howe and his family. I am curious what you might know about John Wilbur Howe during his time in Venango and Butler Counties. I noticed that in the 1840 Butler twp, Butler, pa federal census for John Howe, that there are 2 males 20 - 30 and 2 females 20- 30 years old. looks like two couples to me with some older children that couldn't be any of their kids?? Any ideas? I have a theory anyway.

Here is a summary of what I believe I have found:

There is a William How and Robert Alcorn in the federal census for Oil Creek twp, Crawford County, Pa. This township, in particular the town of Titusville, borders Venango County and from best I can tell borders Cherry Tree Twp of Venango, where John Sproul also is found in 1810 census. Looks to me like he probaby had land close to the town and probably William Howe. History for the town of Titusville mentions Robert Alcorn and others started a Methodist Episcopal Church there. Perhaps they all attended church together?

I found a land record for Andrew Howe in Sugar Creek twp, Venango. Andrew is sold half of William Howe's land by William in 1823. The property is divided by a Mcfate Run (body of water) William retained the western half of his property and Andrew the Eastern half. Can't figure out from any internet search any Mcfate run (no longer is such named?). At least Andrew Howe's eastern land portion was surrounded by the property of Robert Alcorn on the north and south sides (Andrew Howe married Robert Alcorn's daughter, Mary). Andrew Howe is already living on his portion with a house and barn (if I remember right). This would explain why I think William Howe is living later with Samuel Howe - there is no cabin or dwelling on the western section. Andrew Howe sells his Eastern section around 1840 to John W Howe an attorney in Franklin (not related), who appears to be a land speculator. A little less then a year latter, William Howe, who is living in Cornplanter Township according to the deed, sells the western section to John W Howe of the city of Franklin. The older man in the Samuel Howe census info bares out how he is living in Cornplanter Twp. The William Howe in buffalo twp, Washington, Pa is not this William Howe, but perhaps his son? What is the theory behind this connection with William Howe of Buffalo twp??

The John W Howe of the 1830 census, who is living in Franklin (in French Creek Township?) is the attorney who moved there in 1829. This is not your John Wilbur Howe. Instead, Samuel Howe is living in French Creek township (moved for some reason). There are 2 males 20 - 30 (Samuel Howe and John Wilbur Howe?), 1 male 60- 70 (Looks like William Howe to me) and one female 10 - 15 (looks like my ancestor Fanny Howe who should be 15 years old with no older woman in the household. No other Howe/How in the townships that matter in 1830. In 1840, Samuel Howe is living in Cornplanter township. From memory - their is a young man and woman with young children and an older man who is now 70 - 80 years old (looks like William Howe). Samuel Howe, according to his son Robert S. Howe's biography, was married in 1834 in Mercer County, Pa. Mercer at that time included the upper part of lawrence County, Pa. Doesn't quite make sense the Mercer county part, but the date of 1834 marriage explains the 1830 census versus the 1840 census - with (1830) and without (1840) a married couple. If William Howe married one of John Sproul's older daughter's, perhaps from his first wife's first marriage (perhaps John Sproul adopted her kids - I speak from no knowledge of the family - just guessing)?? Then that would explain that William Howe would need to visit Butler County, Pa to see the relatives of his wife Margaret. Whilst visiting there in the early 1830s Samuel meets one of John Sproul's younger daughter's, Sarah, and marries her. But why in Mercer County, even if it is now Lawrence County? Perhaps the biography had it wrong?

I have never been able to find Fanny Howe and her husband William Anderson in the 1840 census. Totally missing. I am wondering if they are the other male and female 20 - 30 years old with John Howe in Butler, Butler, Pa in the 1840 census. Fanny and John Wilbur Howe would be brother and sister if all this is correct.

I have photo'd all the info with my camera to send for documentation when I get home from Salt Lake and would love to share it.

Hope to hear from you

Roger Miller

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